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As to the Op of this thread. Something I need to point out yet again, is this. Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into...

The following is one veiew of Revelation 14:14. Personally, I favor it, which means the angel in question is not literally Christ Himself. Now there are no contradtions with anything in Matthew 13 when viewing it like that. When viewing it like this it does not contradict what a simile means. I...

If you were an Amil rather than a Premil it would at least make sense to apply what I brought up per Matthew 13 to be meaning after the millennium. After all, that would not remotely contradict an Amil view. But it does contradict a Premil view since what I brought up per Matthew 13 is clearly...

IOW, 'one sat like unto' is not a simile, or that it is a simile, except in this case it contradicts what a simile means?

Are you serious? Do you not see that as of the 7th seal it then leads to the 7 trumpets? For example, do you seriously think Revelation 11 and the 6th trumpet pertaining to the 2Ws prophesying, then being made war against after they finish their testimony, is meaning after the 6th seal has...

Unlike some of the rest of you I am not even convinced that that is meaning Jesus. For one, it contradicts Matthew 13:39 if it is supposed to be meaning Jesus. Does this mean JWs have been correct all along, that Jesus is not an uncreated God, that He is a created angel? After all, the verse...

Why would you or anyone think great tribulation starts at the end of the 6th seal when the 5th seal already involves great tribulation? How can anyone, or why would anyone, disagree that the little season meant in Revelation 6:11 = great tribulation = the 42 month reign of the beast...

For example. Before Christ left the planet He already said to watch for His return. Does this mean He could have returned the same day He left? 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be...

First of all, per some of what you said, are you implying Midtrib? That aside since I can't agree with that if this is what you are implying, finally someone else apparently on the same page with me about some of these other things, though. Per my view it might look like this. Daniel 12:9...

And that would be before 70 AD, right? Therefore, the holy place meant in Matthew 24:15 couldn't possibly be meaning the 2nd temple before it was destroyed.

Isn't that basically PostMil, though? Here is something you probably didn't think of. Look at the mess caused by one view interpreting something in this manner, another view interpreting that same thing in another manner, so on and so on. The point being, assuming someone is right, not...

I do not remotely agree with that. Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the...

1. Who are Gog and Magog? Revelation 20:8 already tells us who they are--- the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth. Which then tells me that they are living outside of Jerusalem, not in the midst of it instead. 2. How do they grow to a number as the sand of the sea in...

You scoff at the idea that people would rebel after 1,000 years of Christ’s physical reign on Earth, pretty much saying it makes Premil laughable. But have you forgotten how the story began? Adam and Eve lived in perfect conditions. God was literally present with them. They knew Him...

LOL right back at your absurd nonsense that only Amils could be naive enough to fall for. Your version of the millennium is a complete disconnect with what happened in the beginning per satan and Eve. You argue absurd nonsense, such as, if Christ is bodily present on the earth during the...

Here's an idea then since deception obviously started in the beginning with satan and Eve. Before Eve was deceived, let's liken that to the millennium, since both accounts would be involving no one being deceived by satan during it. Unless of course one is an Amil, since that view does indeed...

IOW, you are speaking for all Amils, despite Amils per post #3 and post #8 that it is not obvious to them? BTW, guess what that means you are doing to these Amils? You are misrepresenting their view. That adds up to that you are misrepresenting Amil in this case. LOL, the irony. Oh, that's...

There are even some Amils in here insisting they are not the same little season. Where is your beef with them? Post #3, Post #8, for example. Why are you not saying to them what you are saying to Premils, meaning this--"Its obvious" because it cuts across your theology"

Is it going to be like that forever? If no, what event or events is it, that prevents it from continuing forever in that manner?

Premils, unlike Amils, in this case, try and determine some of these things based on what Revelation 20:4 records, then comparing that with what Revelation 13 records, for instance. One thing Revelation 20:4 records is this---which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had...