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  1. Butch5

    12 reasons why hell is not eternal conscious torment

    KJV Matthew 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. (Mat 5:29 KJV) And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the...
  2. Butch5

    12 reasons why hell is not eternal conscious torment

    I don't think so. Jesus said the wicked will be cast into Gehenna and John said the wicked would be cast into the Lake of Fire. It seems to me they have to be the same place. The book of Revelation is full of symbols and I think the Lake of Fire is symbol of Gehenna.
  3. Butch5

    12 reasons why hell is not eternal conscious torment

    Some have argued that Hell is eternal, however, that cannot be. The English word eternal is translated wrong from the Greek word Aionios. Jesus spoke of the fire in Gehenna, however, Jeremiah prophesied that one day Gehenna would be made holy to the Lord.
  4. Butch5

    Spirit, Soul and Body

    You're basically just repeating this. The Scriptures are clear, what is left when the body returns to dust and God's spirit/breath returns to Him? Nothing, there is nothing left to live one. A soul is comprised of a body and God's spirit/breath. 7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the...
  5. Butch5

    Baptism: Its Meaning and Significance

    Agreed, baptism is how one becomes "In Christ".
  6. Butch5

    Spirit, Soul and Body

    The dead are raised that is the whole point. They are not off existing in some state of limbo somewhere. There Scriptures clearly teach that when a man dies his body returns to dust and the spirit/breath (which is God's) returns to God. That's it, what is left? Nothing, there is nothing to live...
  7. Butch5

    Spirit, Soul and Body

    Since we see in the creation account that there is only one spirit/breath in a man and that spirit/breath goes back to God at death because it is His, there is nothing left to live on. And no, neither Jesus, Paul, nor Solomon taught that the spirit/breath lives on after death, they were...
  8. Butch5

    Spirit, Soul and Body

    Actaully, I have to disagree with this. There is nothing in Scripture that speaks of people going to heaven. Secondly, you quoted the Genesis account of creation which shows that man is two fold. He is dust of the earth and the breath of God. That's it. We can see this is so because Job says...
  9. Butch5

    Jesus will not lose anyone

    Jesus Himself said one was lost.
  10. Butch5

    Does man posses a "free will" before salvation?

    Romans 9 is God's choosing among those of Israel through which He would fulfill the promises to Abraham.
  11. Butch5

    Does man posses a "free will" before salvation?

    Yes, man has a free will before salvation. This is the earliest teaching of the Christian church.
  12. Butch5

    Calvinism

    I'm not a dispensationalist. I'm a Christian who reads the Scriptures in context. My eyes are not blurry as I said, I read the Scriptures in context. Just because God said something to Moses doesn't mean it applies to all Christians.
  13. Butch5

    Calvinism

    Good Himself said He would forgive sins. Joshua made that statement to certain group of people, it was not a universal statement. Where does Scripture say that God requires payment for sins? I disagree with your assessment of man's condition. According to Paul the natural man "does not" not...
  14. Butch5

    Calvinism

    None of this can be supported by properly exegeted Scripture.
  15. Butch5

    Calvinism

    No, it is not my idea. Actually it has very early support as I've shown with Tertullian's quote. If you read the links I've supplied they go into detail and give it's Scriptural support.
  16. Butch5

    Calvinism

    Hi Dragonfly, Thanks for your thoughts here. I would like to attempt to clear up any confusion. The inheritance in Ephesians 1:11 is different than the one in verse 14. In verse 11 I believe Paul is referring to the land that was given to children of Israel when they entered the promised land...
  17. Butch5

    Calvinism

    Hi Justin, Here is my understanding of Ephesians 1:3-12. I can supply more in depth study materials on this view if anyone is interested. Here is Romans 8:28-3 Romans 8:28-30 Notice all of the verbs are past tense, this whole sequence is a completed act of God. It has already been...
  18. Butch5

    Calvinism

    HI Justin, It would be a rather lengthy discussion but I'd be happy to explain. Much of what I believe come from the early writings of the Church and is likely to be different than what many believe today. First I'd like to say that I believe the modern teaching of Predestination is not what...
  19. Butch5

    Is believing in the trinity necessary to be a christian?

    The Anthenasian Creed is not the original understanding of the Trinity. The earliest Christians didn't say that the Son was coequal with the Father. Jesus Himself said the Father was greater than He was.
  20. Butch5

    Calvinism

    I'm not a Calvinist anymore. I find that none of the 5 points can be shown from Scripture, they are simply inferred from passage that are out of context. Hi Justin, Actually, predestination and free will are easily reconciled when understood from a Biblical aspect rather than a Calvinistic...