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The passage says that Jesus will show who is the only Potentate, the King of kings who alone has immortality which no man can see. "Which no man can see" is not a description of Jesus, but rather of the Father. Jesus said He came out of the Father, He is the begotten God, immortality belongs to...

Hi JB, I'm not sure of your point here. Hi, Scripture says that the Father alone is immortal. 14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ 15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of...

Hi, The word baptize is also translated washing. It was the practice of different peoples of washing and preparing the dead for the after life that they believed in. The Egyptians would bury treasures and other things for their dead to use in the after life. I believe Paul is using their own...

Hi, It could be understood that way. However, it seems to me that the wording suggests He is the Son prior to His coming into the world. That idea also didn't come around until a couple hundred years after Christ. So, it is in agreement with the early Christians.

JB_Reformed Baptist, on 22 Mar 2013 - 22:19, said: I appreciate your early church history quotes, but I will wait on those scriptures and keep in mind what you said above in regards to them. THX Here is a passages that hints ate it but doesn't state it outright. YLT 1 John 4:9 In this was...

I don't know if the Scriptures say that Christ was begotten before time. However, as I pointed out. Ignatius was taught by John so I think it's highly probably that John is the one who told him that.

These first two quotes are from Ignatius. These are significant because Ignatius was a disciple of the apostle John. His statements will reflect what John taught him, not necessarily an interpretation. Ignatius, Epistle to the Epheisans chapter 18 The cross of Christ is indeed a stumbling-block...

I will look for the Scriptures, however, I think we need to remember that it is all men's interpretations even if it's yours or mine.

Here is Alexander of Alexandria in refuting Arianism. 12. Concerning whom we thus believe, even as the Apostolic Church believes. In one Father unbegotten, who has from no one the cause of His being, who is unchangeable and immutable, who is always the same, and admits of no increase or...

That's not the early Christian understanding. They understood that the Son was begotten before all worlds.

Remember, I don't hold to the modern idea of the Trinity. Jesus, the Word, came out of God, that is what He said in John 8. KJV John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. (Joh 8:42...

To answer the original question, I think one if one understands who Jesus is he will by default believe in the Trinity or at least the deity of Christ. Both Son and the Spirit proceed from God, as such they must also be deity.

Thanks, I wanted to see if you were using the modern understanding of the Trinity. I believe in the Trinity but not the modern definition. I hold to the Nicene Creed definition of the Trinity which is the view held by the earliest Christian. God in the NT is translated from "Theos" which means...

Can you define what the Trinity is as you understand it?

That's pretty much it. However, it is flatly wrong. The issue is settled and ahs been since very early on. The problem is that the Reformers rejected it when they revolted against it's abuses by the Catholic church. Instead of returning to the faith, they opposed the Catholic church and went 180...

Hi Rex, I wholeheartedly agree.

Hi Justin, I really do believe this "I'm an American" attitude is very dangerous to the Christian. If one is Christian he is "not" an American. He has relinquished that citizenship for citizenship in the Kingdom of God. As Paul said, he has become a slave. A slave has no rights, yet it seems...

I think there are several reasons. One I believe is pride, they don't want to be wrong. Two, I think many have beliefs that have been passed down through generations and the idea that grandma and grandpa were wrong is simply unacceptable. However, I believe there is another reason that is rather...

Not likely! If someone was unfamiliar with the language it could appear to them that the speakers were drunk. However, it seems that the drunken statement what prophesied by Isaiah. In speaking of Christ's coming God said to Isaiah, KJV Isaiah 28:1 Woe to the crown of pride, to the drunkards...

Is one condemnation ok and one not?