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That would for sure be stupid, this rod of iron being applied to the saved. Escpecially after 1 Corinthians 15:28 is fulfilled. Keeping in mind, Amils apparently believe that the same day Christ returns 1 Corinthians 15:28 is fulfilled that very same day. Obviously though, no matter how you look...

What exactly are we in disageement about then? I agree God is the one sending these armies. Amils have this involving satan somehow, that satan is attacking the unsaved rather than God doing that. And as to comments about about my church, well I don't have a church I attend nor do I have a...

So, IOW, as bad as the flood was, God is going to do something even more profound. He has found a loophole since He can't be accused of drowning all flesh if He burns all flesh to a crisp instead. This time around He's going to literally burn the surface of the planet and everyone and everything...

Further proof that you see yourself superior to Premils. Further proof that you are obviously arrogant. But it doesn't matter anyway, I guess. You already have a low opinion of me as a person, a person that you don't even know personally.

If you truly want to understand me, then use the following below as a template since that is basically the way my mind operates when having these discussions. I'm certainly not telling Amils what they believe nor am I acting as if I understand better what they believe than they do themselves...

Explain the logic in that, that I know that I'm speaking nonsense. If I thought or knew that, why in the world would I be doing that to begin with? What would be my motive for doing that? You must think I need to be in an insane asylum or something. That sounds like something that an insane...

And here you are lying about me again. So guess what? I don't care what you think of me. You are no one important to me, as if I should be bowing down to you or something. When I make posts, I know what I'm meaning. You certainly don't know what I'm meaning. You are not me and you are not God...

I'm used to getting beat up. But seriously, though it might not seem like it at times, I do respect @Spiritual Israelite. The way I look at it, if he can find fault in the way I reason things at times, I should equally be able to find fault in how he reasons things at times. Because, clearly...

In general I agree with that approach and the reasons behind it.

What then does that have to with satan deceiving the nations when he is loosed? If Revelation 9 is involving Revelation 20:7, like some of you appear to be saying, in what way by satan tormenting the unsaved does that then help his cause, that being deceiving the nations so that they can come...

LOL. Why in the world would I need to tell Amils what they believe? Especially if it is not even what they believe. And that I am apparently doing this deliberately. Unlike @Spiritual Israelite where I can at least reason with him to some degree, it is impossible for me to reason with you no...

IOW, since he is an Amil he gets a pass, regardless. It's only those dreaded Premils, such as me, that is the problem, not any Amils.

Didn't he say in one of his posts that the sun gets annahilated during the day of the Lord? Wonder what he does with Psalms 72:17 in that case? Psalms 72:17 His name shall endure for ever: his name shall be continued as long as the sun: and men shall be blessed in him: all nations shall call...

You just don't comprehend the points I am trying to make. I'm not misrepresenting anybody. If anyone is misrepresenting anyone, it is you misrepresenting me.

The point is, if satan's little season happens before the 2nd coming, though I don't agree that it does, yet if it does, having part in the first resurrection, obviously, thus undeniably, proves that no one can be saved during satan's little season. Except you argue that they can. And you use 2...

What is the logic in satan attacking his own people? Look what the text says. Revelation 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads 5 And to...

It simply means that once every Jew and Gentile that ends up saved, are saved, and so ALL ISRAEL shall be saved. IOW, all Israel is not Jews, it is Jews and Gentiles combined. Of course, that is what you seem to be saying to begin with. Therefore, I'm not disagreeing with what you said, I'm...

My point about the 5 months not meaning forever has to do with the fact, regardless whether the 5 months are literal, or if they are not, this 5 months expire eventually. What then does it mean when these 5 months are in the past? We have to keep in mind that this is during the 5th trumpet and...

Why do you waste time with arguments like that? Simply use the first resurrection and living and reigning with Christ a thousand years as an argument. Nothing can trump that argument. Obviously, assuming someone can be saved during satan's little season, they wouldn't be able to live and reign...

I can see connecting that with 2Th 2:8-12. To connect that with Rev 9:4-6 though, is nonsensical, IMO. The text says this torment is for 5 months. 5 months isn't forever. What then does it mean when these 5 months expire? You need to deal with that fact as well. Amils never seem to want to deal...