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near term - while Israel was under occupancy, leading up to the 70ad destruction of the temple. long term - Israel into exile into the nations as the gospel was being spread to the nations, over the course of 2000 years. end times - Israel back as a sovereign nation again, events of the latter...

I edited my post and responded to your question with this... For what Jesus said, just go to the kjv online and read the text in red in Luke 21:24 to the remainder of Luke 21. Then go to Matthew 24 and the text in red to Matthew 24:22.

I don't know that all the high priests and Pharisees were killed in 70 AD. Maybe they were or maybe they weren't. I have no problem that you can have you opinion regarding the parable.

For what Jesus said, just go to the kjv online and read the text in red in Luke 21:24 to the remainder of Luke 21. Then go to Matthew 24 and the text in red to Matthew 24:22. My chart shows which verses are near term, long term, and end times. Go to my post #173 and fill out what verses you...

Yes, I understand your rationale if you want to apply that part of the parable to God taking vengeance out on the Jews by having the Romans destroy Jerusalem. The reason I disagree with that application is because bad guys in the parable are the high priests and the Pharisees, not all of the Jews.

What verses would you place... under near term Matthew 24: ????? Mark 13: ????? Luke 21: ????? under long term Matthew 24: ????? Mark 13: ????? Luke 21: ????? under end times Matthew 24: ????? Mark 13: ????? Luke 21: ?????

Those verses are about events are prior to the destruction of the temple.

I may be misunderstanding what you wrote regarding your question to me. But the key is Matthew 24:14 is a long term verse of the gospel being preached to the nations until the end (times) comes. The gospel has been preached to the nations for 2000 years (thereabouts). Matthew 24:14 fills...

Randy, Matthew 24:15-22 is preceded by this verse... Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. ....thus verse Matthew 24:15 is in the end times. Luke 21:20-24 was in 70 ad.

Hi Randy, I agree that Daniel 12:7 is time of the end, after the Antichrist person will have broken the power of the holy people. Daniel 12:11-12 is also during that end times period. Not during Antiochus IV historic time. In Daniel 11:31, Antiochus IV though was involved in an...

@Spiritual Israelite Study my Olivet discourse chart. Jesus spoke of things that would be near term, long term, and end times. The only thing that you would have to alter regarding your view is that Matthew 24:15-22 is not 70ad but end times. Then go to post 1 in my thread...

Matthew 22 is a continuation of Matthew 21:45 as the chief priests and Pharisees perceived he spoke of them. So, the Matthew 22:1 parable is about who will enter the kingdom of heaven and who will not. The chief priests and the Pharisees were the bad guys in the parable who were invited to...

In Luke 21, Jesus was speaking when He was in the temple complex on the temple mount (we know from verses 1-3). So speaking at the temple complex was first. Then at the Mt of Olives after He and the disciples left the temple. Here is how we know.... Matthew 24: 1 And Jesus went out, and...

No, not imo.

The disciples did not ask about the end of the age. Age is not in the text. So let's remove the age/ , and stick to the end of the world. So what was the basis for their thinking that the world would end ? I did a phrase search for "end of the world". And here are the results...

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Considering in verse 21, the great...

I think "the days of vengeance" in verse 22 is referring to the Romans taking vengeance because of Jewish rebellion against Roman rule. I don't think verse 12 and 13 is talking about 70 ad, but before then as the apostles went out to spread the gospel and met with opposition by the Jewish...

@The Light @rebuilder 454 Do you ever use the online kjv word search feature ? It is very handy. If you type in more than one word and search a phrase - it gives many partial results. The thing to do is click on the "modify search" button. Then click on "phrase match".

But the Gentiles no longer control Jerusalem after 1967. Jerusalem is back in the hands of the Jews. Luke 21:24 "time of the Gentiles" does not refer to control of the temple mount, but control of Jerusalem. 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive...