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  1. quietthinker

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    I have absolute respect for the God of Jesus, which might I add I understand to be the same God since before Creation. I also believe that Jesus is the unmitigated revelation of God's character. I do not see it possible that the violence attributed to God by the OT writers accurately reflects...
  2. quietthinker

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    Have you really come to the conclusion that Jesus talking to his Father in John 17, was assured that his Father was about to have him tortured and killed because he needed it before he could forgive?
  3. quietthinker

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    I see. I can assure you that I am familiar with the OT including the many attributions of violence to God. I am also familiar with the reality of Jesus, the which does not appear to jive with these attributions. I also think that any honest assessment of both the OT records and the history of...
  4. quietthinker

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    How would you reconcile Jesus approach manifested in his living and dying with God sanctioning violence seeing he is the Ultimate arbitrator of God's purposes?
  5. quietthinker

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    Do you want to elaborate on your question?
  6. quietthinker

    We've Grown More Outside of Church

    Ahhhh, 'obedience', that hoary old adage.....and I would ask, obedience to what and to whom? Isn't it true that we all love to be obedient to something from our own desires to the king.... so to speak. I'm all in favour of obedience but it's not the obedience the religious promote by their...
  7. quietthinker

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    Isn't it easy to superimpose our sense of justice onto God, Brakelite?.....subsequently the violence displayed in the myths of pagan gods. Is our sense of justice God's sense of justice? Does God solve problems the way mortals think problems are solved? God never intended Israel to dispossess...
  8. quietthinker

    Did Jesus use apologetics?

    Jesus worked by appeal. He is who he is and it either attracts or repulses. That said, attraction or repulsion is not always an instant phenomena.....so he let himself be observed (he did nothing in secret) He continually invites us to observe him, from the cradle to the grave to the...
  9. quietthinker

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    The Wrath of God - How is it love? God's wrath is defined in Romans 1:18-32. It fundamentally says that God allows folk to reap the consequences of their sustained choices. The words, 'he gave them over' to what they choose and love. Yep, breakdown which ultimately results in death. ....and why...
  10. quietthinker

    disturbed & stressed

    and I see you feel justified in your approach!
  11. quietthinker

    Rock Peter

    or there can be no greater foolishness than to attribute that which is a metaphor and apply it to the wrong person The Greek name Petros (Πέτρος) means "stone" or "rock"and is the original form of the name Peter, given to Saint Peter by Jesus. It originates from the Aramaic word Kefa, meaning...
  12. quietthinker

    disturbed & stressed

    It is remarkably repetitive MD that when an enquiry is made of you for clarification, you turn the spotlight onto the enquirer by using blame as a decoy from the enquiry.
  13. quietthinker

    disturbed & stressed

    You've been asking for healing for a long time MD. Is it that God is not hearing your requests or the requests of those praying for your situation or is it that you are not in sync (hearing) God's replies? Or could it be a situation like Job's where you are blameless and it is the forces of...
  14. quietthinker

    Was Mary Magdalene the sister of Lazarus?

    I see you qualify yourself for the inability to hear. So be it!
  15. quietthinker

    Daniel 7 - 10 horns....

    I need to ask this question from the outset.... Can numbers be representative other than their sum of digits?
  16. quietthinker

    Was Mary Magdalene the sister of Lazarus?

    I understand your preference to debate....even that which I consider of no consequence. There are bigger fish to fry. I guess it's a question of recognising what constitutes bigger fish. What would you say qualifies for bigger fish?
  17. quietthinker

    Was Mary Magdalene the sister of Lazarus?

    As you wish. Personally, I do not consider your conclusion to be accurate. The Gospel is not the message or intent of out-manoeuvring by debate.....and refusal to be drawn on what I think are irrelevant technicalities does not constitute inability to perform.
  18. quietthinker

    WHAT GOSPEL SHALL BE PREACHED IN ALL THE WORLD?

    WHAT GOSPEL SHALL BE PREACHED IN ALL THE WORLD? Why a Gospel at all (good news) one might ask? Among other things it presupposes a faulty assumption exists; one that is dire. And what might that assumption be? The religions of history, ie the forces/ movements/ philosophies which drive humanity...
  19. quietthinker

    Was Mary Magdalene the sister of Lazarus?

    We can rattle on for some time about this but I don't think it's productive. It is possible to make mountains out of mole hills which I think this is. I would rather ensure that mole hills are not made into mountains.
  20. quietthinker

    Was Mary Magdalene the sister of Lazarus?

    The scripture identifies individuals by the relationships they held, (father, son, daughter, sibling) their professions or behaviour they engaged or the locations they were identified with. For example, we are told that Mary, Martha and Lazarus lived in Bethany (John 11:1-3 John 12:1-3) It...