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so you would blame God by saying it was a botched creation after he declared it very good?

Truth never travels solo. It is always accompanied by the Holy Spirit.....and yes, it matters not the status we dish out amongst ourselves.... this status carries zero weight when it comes to truth.

Sooo, using your rationale, it is easy to deduct that God had nefarious designs. I can't accept that....particularly in the light of 1 John 1:5 'This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all'

In a free Universe there is always the possibility of poor choice, otherwise it is not free. Lucifer made such a one and insisted on sticking to it. Do we assume that God did not try to bring him around again? I can't imagine it; not if God is love....yet pride dictated his choices and continue...

Do you find my previously stated point of view below unreasonable? We don't have a record but it is highly likely that A&E were informed by angels about the wily foe who would attempt seduce/ deceive and join his cause. It is also unreasonable to assume that God left A&E on their own without...

We don't have a record but it is highly likely that A&E were informed by angels about the wily foe who would attempt seduce/ deceive and join his cause. It is also unreasonable to assume that God left A&E on their own without warning. From what we can deduce, large number of angels took the...

The madness of many defies reason or any rational. Even while All are in Christ just as they are in Adam. Even while forgiveness is free and unasked for, many will choose death because the righteousness of Jesus (even for them) is not attractive or wanted. God does not and will not force his...

Ahhhh, what a bugger! I once intended to drive home safely after having a few drinks and blow me down, my right hand turn across the carriageway was cut off by a driver who just magically appeared. The claim it wasn't my intention never held up and resulted in a mess of bent metal.

Ahhhh, mandatory!

That which resonates with me are the words of Jesus.

Yes, the 'church' and many who call themselves christians do make knowing God difficult but nevertheless God will use even the most improbable. Consider Balaam's donkey or Jesus reply to the religious leaders complaint on his entry into Jerusalem on a donkey, 'if these don't cry out, the very...

I don't think so but your comment does point to a condescending attitude and an inflated ego :IDK:

I guess its a different hood than worn by the KKK

Mine comes from the underside of a hang glider. :wavinghand

Are Christians the biggest barrier to a renewed relationship with God? There are many barriers, the greatest being an unwilling heart.

I don't need to be privy to the collective yada yada of any 'in-depth' discussion in order to arrive at an accurate conclusion as a measure of right or wrong. :ummm:

It is true that terms like vipers and serpents can be understood as the deceptive nature of men but this does not exclude there being an arch deceiver known as the Devil or Satan. It is this personalised expression that Jesus is referring to in John 8, John 10 and in the visions of John's...

The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago In The Godhead we have The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. Any two witness to the other two. When one is familiar with the scriptures it is seen repeatedly in past, present continuous format. Killing the two witnesses as referenced in...

I think you are attempting to weave a fabric the which integrity is highly questionable.

Jesus was well aware of a false god who masquerades as genuine, in fact he identified him and his purpose. John 8:41-44 You do the deeds of your father.” Then they said to Him, “We were not born of fornication; we have one Father—God.” Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would...