THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

[Marilyn C]

LOL! You REALLY need to reread Romans.
1. Anyone who is not "in Christ" is "in Adam", thus condemned to the curse of death which Christ defeated--the Jews aren't going to have a New Heart, but still be cursed sinners in Adam.
2. You want to act as though the two are mutually exclusive, but there is no mutual exclusivity--you can have a new heart AND be in Christ LOL In fact, ALL believers have both true of them.

1. Believing Gentiles are grafted in to God's people, the people among whom the Presence of God is, which distinguishes it from all other nations (Exodus 33:15).
2. The root is the forefathers : Torah warns that for some sins the offender will be "cut off from among his people". We know, therefore, that the tree represents "God's people"--which Israel has been cut off from, with only a remnant remaining--which ("God's people"), again, is defined as "the nation with whom God's Presence dwells". We know Peter says this Presence is only for those who repent and believe in Christ (Acts 3).

So, 4,000 years of God making an oops, (before Christ).

 

[GracePeace]

`Therefore let us, as many as are mature, have this mind; and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal even this to you.` (Phil. 3: 15)

If I can achieve the making of the same empty assertion as you, does it mean I'm right?
Let's see : "The reason you don't see thing the way I see them is because you're immature."
Did it work? Am I right? LOL

 

[GracePeace]

So, 4,000 years of God making an oops, (before Christ).

You can mock the teaching that those who are in Adam are doomed all you want--call it "an oops", or what ever--but what you can't do is actually address the text, because you know it disagrees with you, and you prefer your own ideas over God's, and God's Word makes you mad, because it isn't your word, so you want to poop on God's Word when it is shown to you.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

The `tares` are who the devil sows among Israel.

There are tares in the Body of Christ. You should get to know God's Word better!

2 Timothy 4:3,4
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine (teaching); but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2 Peter 2:1-3
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying (contradicting, Not agreeing with) the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
And through covetousness (idolatry) shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingers not, and their damnation slumbers not.

Jude 1:4
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness (no self control, living after the flesh), and denying (contradicting, opposing Jesus’ teachings) the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. (referring to false teachers and false brethren - see Matthew 13:24-30)

Jude 1:17-21
Remember the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
These are those who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
But you, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
("those who separate themselves" is not referring to sinners in the world who were never joined unto the Lord in the first place)

Matthew 24:3-13
What shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ (including saying “I am anointed”); and shall deceive many.
And you shall hear of wars and rumors of wars: see that you be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
For nation shall rise against nation (ethnic group vs ethnic group), and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in many different places.
All these are the beginning of sorrows.
Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. (See 1 John 5:3 AND 2 John 1:6)
But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Acts 20:27-30
For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

So why does Jesus need to marry millions of men and women?

It obviously doesn't concern you so no need to worry about it.

 

[Marilyn C]

If I can achieve the making of the same empty assertion as you, does it mean I'm right?
Let's see : "The reason you don't see thing the way I see them is because you're immature."
Did it work? Am I right? LOL

No, it was written as to if we (either you or me) are wrong then prayerfully God will show us the truth.

 

[Marilyn C]

You can mock the teaching that those who are in Adam are doomed all you want--call it "an oops", or what ever--but what you can't do is actually address the text, because you know it disagrees with you, and you prefer your own ideas over God's, and God's Word makes you mad, because it isn't your word, so you want to poop on God's Word when it is shown to you.

I`m not the one writing `ridiculous, poop, mad .......

It seems to me that people whose view is threatened can`t just rely on God`s word to but have to try and put down another person. Not good.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

No, it was written as to if we (either you or me) are wrong then prayerfully God will show us the truth.

God already talk about the bride of Christ being believers in His Word.

Folks that don't accept what God already said won't be hearing from Him at all since they consider Him to be a liar.

 

[Marilyn C]

There are tares in the Body of Christ. You should get to know God's Word better!

2 Timothy 4:3,4
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine (teaching); but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2 Peter 2:1-3
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying (contradicting, Not agreeing with) the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
And through covetousness (idolatry) shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingers not, and their damnation slumbers not.

Jude 1:4
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness (no self control, living after the flesh), and denying (contradicting, opposing Jesus’ teachings) the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. (referring to false teachers and false brethren - see Matthew 13:24-30)

Jude 1:17-21
Remember the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
These are those who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
But you, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
("those who separate themselves" is not referring to sinners in the world who were never joined unto the Lord in the first place)

Matthew 24:3-13
What shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ (including saying “I am anointed”); and shall deceive many.
And you shall hear of wars and rumors of wars: see that you be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
For nation shall rise against nation (ethnic group vs ethnic group), and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in many different places.
All these are the beginning of sorrows.
Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. (See 1 John 5:3 AND 2 John 1:6)
But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Acts 20:27-30
For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

However, they are not called tares.

 

[Marilyn C]

God already talk about the bride of Christ being believers in His Word.

Folks that don't accept what God already said won't be hearing from Him at all since they consider Him to be a liar.

Yes, God did, to Israel. Isa. 54: 5 & 6 Hos. 2: 19 & 20. Do we disregard what God says there?

 

[Marilyn C]

It obviously doesn't concern you so no need to worry about it.

Why I write on this subject is because the wrong `bride` will lead to the wrong inheritance.

 

[GracePeace]

No, it was written as to if we (either you or me) are wrong then prayerfully God will show us the truth.

Oh OK I misunderstood.

 

[GracePeace]

I`m not the one writing `ridiculous, poop, mad .......

It seems to me that people whose view is threatened can`t just rely on God`s word to but have to try and put down another person. Not good.

What a joke! I've endlessly cited the Word, and I'm 100% certain of the correctness of my view--you are the one who is deciding to reject what is plain.