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I think I can help with this sister. Two witnesses. Scripture says to "let every word be established in the mouth of two or three witnesses". God wanted two or three witnesses to establish the truth of the gospel and Jesus Christ....Jew, Gentile and the Holy Spirit.

Paul had more revelation concerning the Gentiles having a part in the new covenant, I think especially since after the Jews rejected his preaching, he became "apostle to the Gentiles" and began reaching out mainly to them.

Ruling with Christ didn't come with the old covenant, that's all. But they did receive the full inheritance and were made perfect/complete after death, as I mentioned in my previous post. And in Ps 87:5 we see that the mother of us all is Zion so the city and Zion are the same thing. God...

It is true that the OT saints didn't receive what was promised to them (while alive on earth) as it says in Heb. 11:39 - the promised Holy Spirit and ability to come boldly to the throne of grace/holy of holies, because it could only be received and entered through the new covenant in Christ who...

Amen...it's the same gospel that is "to the JEW FIRST, then the Gentile".

Jhn 14:16-17 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. Jhn...

Amen. Just posting this scripture for those who might not realize what you are referring to, if only they would hear and receive it: Col 3:1-4 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things...

I'm afraid you are dangerously deceived. "Now we know no man after the flesh any longer." There is no longer Jew or Gentile as far as God is concerned really, there are only the saved or the lost, which Jew/Gentile were allegories (ensamples) for in the first place. But I am not expecting you...

The Jerusalem (city) that is above is our mother as the apostle wrote. He got this from the OT scripture that says we are born in Zion..."this one and that one were born in her"...Zion being referred to as a "her" because she is a mother. They are both allegories for the same thing, which we...

Yes, they would not be made complete without us, ie, complete in Christ, like we are. Christ and His new covenant is that "something better", the promise that hadn't come for them yet. And if we can see it, this passage also lets us know that "we" and "they" are one....they are "not without us".

We need the Holy Spirit to give us eyes to see, brother. Scripture says to lean not to our own understanding....but rely on the Holy Spirit. And that the natural man cannot perceive the things of God for they are spiritually discerned.

No worries sister, I understand. We've been back-and-forthing on these things for a while...time to give it a rest for now.

Amen brother, and I agree it is simple. But like the old saying goes, everything is easy when you know how. The problem is that if for any reason a wrong idea gets lodged into our mind, it literally blinds us to the truth that is written clearly in black and white. So therein lies the...

I have been confused about this verse for a long time, but I think this is right sister, nail on the head.........and I believe the fullness of the Gentiles being spoken about must refer to the Gentiles becoming saved and established in the gospel............so that then they could show mercy to...

....and all who are grafted in together with her. The Israel of God is a spiritual nation and a spiritual commonwealth because it includes the Gentile believers from other nations. Eph 2:12-14 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and...

The coming down from heaven itself is symbolic. The city is heavenly Zion, the kingdom of God and Christ, and we were all "born in her" when we came to faith. Zion came down to live in our hearts as it were. The idea of an earthly utopia is one thing that tripped up the religious leaders of...

Any souls who were righteous and God fearing before Christ was crucified (eg, some are written about in the bible such as Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Ruth, Moses, Joshua, prophets etc) are included in this where it says: "they without us would not be made perfect". Jesus descended into the...

Israel is called "the church in the wilderness" brother. And the church is called "the Israel of God."

Yes, but the reason I shared that was to show a little example of that 1 Cor 14:26 verse in action as led by the Spirit, "How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be...

Sister, I seem to notice that in the spirit realm things are not cut and dried so finely.....compartmentalizing is a product of the natural mind, in our attempts to understand or explain things......we are all a holy nation, whoever belongs to Christ through faith in Him, regardless of our state...