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Thanks, I was hoping go focus on the verses raised in the OP, and on reconciling them.

No, one seems to say "Upon believing, you have eternal life, and there are no other requirements that can be added", and the others, if memory serves, seem to say "As long as you are doing the things you're expected to do, good things youre commanded, you will have eternal life now and at the...

The OP specifically asks how NOT to call God "liar" on either count, but how to call God "true" when both are to be affirmed but seemingly would need reconciling because they seem mutually exclusive.

If you'd followed the conversation, you would know I'd settled on some potential answers.

You said there's no answer, so you're free to move on.

Ohhh this sounds like "I have an answer but I'm not sharing it. Trust me bro." Either share the answer or move on. No one held a gun to your head to make you join the convo.

Ok thanks for sharing

? I asked in the OP how you all reconciled them, I didn't ask you to believe them, esp since no Christian will say "I don't believe Verses in the Bible" lol

Still no answer to the OP.

Oops, we know what happens to unproductive servants (Mt 25; Jn 15)! When, in the following chapter, Paul defines the behaviors he is holding his flesh back from engaging in, they are the behaviors he already said would keep someone out of the Kingdom in chapter 6. You can try to twist things...

If only that were so : the reply (of mine) you're replying to (here) is actually a denial that I asked pointed questions, so how is it an answer to those questions? Please communicate in a way that is helpful.

1. Am I right that you're a reader of NT Wright? 2. Were you planning on actually providing an answer, or were you content with speculating, and talking about which tools would be best to get the job of answering the OP done?

Interesting you view your method so highly, and yourself so special, that way, and, yet, your "answer" leaves the issue tangled and unresolved.

aw The OP of this thread asks people how they reconcile the verses, it doesn't ask anyone to copy and paste a block of text as proof why they have ignored either and gone with one of them (as you and others do--eg, as you've done here). The lady I was responding to was simply expressing her...

Also, Paul says, "I beat my body, make it into my slave, lest, after having preached to others, I myself become a castaway."

Yeah, I know you wanted to share your thoughts, but this is not the place for you to share what you've gathered; this is the place to answer the OP. The place to share your thoughts on John's Gospel would be a thread of your own.

1. I asked this question : 2. The fact that the thread is called "Difficulty Reconciling", and then the OP goes on to describe the things I was having difficulty reconciling, you don't conclude that the question is "How do you reconcile these things?"

None of this is an answer to anything I've said; you have a lot of irrelevant thoughts, and you should go make a thread about them, because I'm not interested in ANYTHING apart from you answering the answers I've already furnished to your nonsense "replies" to things I've stated. The issue is...

Do you believe that your empty denials prove your lies true? You mean like how I pointed out you repeated mine about yourself? I don't have alts. As I said, I have nothing but contempt for you and your gobbledygook, so don't waste your energy offering to "teach" your insanity. Yup, and I'll...

Your advice is not my concern, so you should find another place to give it. I trust the readers can see how deceptive you are being.