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  1. Butch5

    The Baptism In The Holy Spirit

    Hi Miss Hepburn,I would be happy to answer your questions. Give me a day or so to write a response. The quick answer is, yes, I do believe in some things supernatural.
  2. Butch5

    The Baptism In The Holy Spirit

    It is those who believe the supernatural gifts have ceased and those who believe they continue. I believe they have ceased.
  3. Butch5

    Does a Loving God Chasteneth and Scourgeth Us?

    On Pentecost Day the Holy Spirit, the Comforter, came and that is an example of what will be...in the last days. Those days weren't the last days. Old men didn't dream dreams. The servants and handmaidens didn't go around prophesying, there were no heavenly signs, etc....IT HASN'T YET HAPPENED...
  4. Butch5

    Does a Loving God Chasteneth and Scourgeth Us?

    They were examples to show us how to live, and how God interacts with men. It doesn't mean everything that happened to them will happen to us.I think you are giving Satan way to much credit. Don't you believe there were just evil men? What is the basis for attributing all of that to Satan? Here...
  5. Butch5

    Does a Loving God Chasteneth and Scourgeth Us?

    I am talking about Isaiah not Christ. Isaiah's Scourge is the armies of Rome, they destroyed Jerusalem, just like Isaiah prophesied, the gift of tongues was a warning to the ruler in Jerusalem at the time of the Prophecy. The message of tongues was the rest of God, it came as a warning against...
  6. Butch5

    Does a Loving God Chasteneth and Scourgeth Us?

    My friend, you are taking this completely out of context. The Scourge is not Satan, it was the Roman armies. Satan is not even mentioned in this passage, however the ruling leadership of Israel is. Also the application of tongues, tongues have ceased, how are you applying the use of them today?I...
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    Does a Loving God Chasteneth and Scourgeth Us?

    It was also revolutionary to me when I first learned of it. However, when Scripture is read in this manner so many things become so clear. So much confusion just disappears. This is one thing that has tremendously advanced my study of Scripture. I look at who is speaking, who is being spoken to...
  8. Butch5

    Does a Loving God Chasteneth and Scourgeth Us?

    Thanks for the welcome. I do however, again, have to disagree. Do you think that Christians are the ones coming from the north to inherit the land given to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob?You see the passage in Isaiah is dated to the time of Christ.Isaiah 28:1-29 ( KJV ) Woe to the crown of pride, to...
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    Does a Loving God Chasteneth and Scourgeth Us?

    I disagree, I believe this is the reason for the confusion in the church today. Christians apply to many things from Scripture in a general sense that should not be applied. For example, we have Calvinists and Arminians in the church, why? Because someone is inappropriately applying Scripture...
  10. Butch5

    Does a Loving God Chasteneth and Scourgeth Us?

    I understand what you are saying and that may be true. However, the passage in Isaiah is not speaking to this issue. It is speaking of Judgment against the leadership in Jerusalem at the time of Christ. One of the first and most important methods of study is to take the Scriptures "In Context"...