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That is not Jesus speaking and saying that he and his Father are one/united (echad)! Neither is this. That is what Yahweh commanded Moses to teach to the Israelites - Deuteronomy 6:1 (WEB): Now this is the commandment, the statutes, and the ordinances, which Yahweh your God commanded to teach...

In his letter to Mary John also wrote (2 John 1:3): Grace, mercy, and peace will be with us, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love. So John clearly didn't believe that Jesus was God. He, and the other apostles always talk of God and of...

No. But God worked miracles of healing and raising people from death through prophets and the apostles and other Christians too - but that does not mean that they were not mere men and must have actually been God. Your logic is flawed. Consider Exodus 14:21 (WEB): Moses stretched out his...

I don't deny how great Jesus is - he is our Lord and our head, our redeemer and saviour. But he is not God. The verses that you quote clearly distinguish between God and Jesus, and have God appointing His son as heir of all things, and God resurrecting Jesus from death. They also clearly...

What about when he was a man? What about when he was a man? But your children are not you. You alone are the head of your family. Likewise Yahweh is the head of Jesus. Jesus is not equal to Yahweh, and Yahweh alone is God. Yes, Jesus has the same spirit being nature as God, just as your...

As I understand it, believers in the Trinity believe that Jesus is God, and by referring to Jesus as being divine, or equally divine as his Father, they mean that they believe Jesus is part of God (God being made up of three persons in their belief), and that he has the same spirit being nature...

"No one is able to snatch them out of my Father’s hand" implies that his Father is more powerful than all living beings. Therefore Jesus is not equal to his Father, as he said ("the Father is greater than I").

John 10:29 (WEB): My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all. No one is able to snatch them out of my Father’s hand. John 14:28 (WEB): ... If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I said ‘I am going to my Father;’ for the Father is greater than I.

Nope.

Obviously after. But he was writing about things that happened before his resurrection, way before! No, he writes "firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created". (Or as the KJV puts it, "firstborn of every creature".) And, "firstborn from the dead; that in all things he...

No, that's not quite correct. Yes, John 1:41 (WEB) says, “We have found the Messiah!” (which is, being interpreted, Christ). however, Messiah is the English transliteration of the Hebrew word mashiyac, which means 'anointed'. So Christ means 'anointed'. Jesus was anointed by God: Luke 4:18...

Please prove that using verses from the Bible. No, Colossians 1:18 (three verses later), "He is the head of the body, the assembly, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence", is refering to Jesus' resurrection. "Firstborn of all...

Jesus being the "firstborn of all creation" implies that he was created first, and he existed before all the rest of creation. So God created Jesus first, then He had Jesus create all the rest of creation. As John 1:1 says, Jesus was with God in the beginning, the beginning of God's creation...

Quite right, because the angels weren't involved in the creation. We're told who was involved in the creation in Colossians 1 (WEB): 15) who [Jesus] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 16) For by him all things were created, in the heavens and on the earth...

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Err, I don't need to see those verses - I had already quoted them in my post (except for verse 50)! Yes, I agree with that (applying to Christians only). But my point was that resurrection, when God gives us a spiritual body, does not occur immediately when we die. Remember verse 23 that I...

Actually, Paul didn't say that we will receive a spiritual body as soon as we die. He said: 1 Corinthians 15: 23) But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, then those who are Christ’s, at his coming. 51) Behold, I tell you a mystery. We will not all sleep, but we will all be...

He quotes a verse from the Bible and you accuse him of being "an unbiblical cult member"! What kind of logic is that? :confused:

Actually there is no such thing as an atom of carbon dioxide! Carbon dioxide gas is made up of molecules consisting of one carbon atom and two oxygen atoms (CO2). Also, oxygen gas is made up of molecules consisting of two oxygen atoms (O2 - more precisely it should be called dioxygen). And...

To be immortal means that you can't possibly die. Paul talks about the dead being raised to life (so if they are dead then they can't be immortal) and then being made immortal. 1 Thessalonians 4 (WEB): 13) But we don’t want you to be ignorant, brothers, concerning those who have fallen...