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  1. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    You weren't reading carefully enough! I wrote that the Jews had preserved "a copy of the original", not that the original was obtained and preserved by them. I did read the introduction of the book. As it says, the twelfth version of Shem-Tob's work contained a copy of the entire Gospel of...
  2. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    I never mentioned anything about the NWT or Jehovah’s Witnesses. You're jumping to conclusions without any evidence! (And no, I am not a JW.)
  3. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    So you agree then that people noticed the falling away from the truth?! I said I didn't know who you were referring to by the "ECF". WDYUWIS? No, I quote some verses and explain what I think they mean. It's the verses that are the 'ultimate authority'; it is up to you to decide whether or...
  4. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    I know that's what it says. I quoted the verses to you! Perhaps you should read again what I wrote?!
  5. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    I didn't write that. It was Marymog.
  6. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    Because it's a misleading translation (translated by Trinity believers who missed out 'a') and it is inconsistent with other verses of Scripture if it truly was "the Word was God". Because I believe Jesus, not what the Jews mistakenly thought. Because it's another poor translation (I covered...
  7. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    It is Yahweh speaking. His redeemer could be refering to to Israel's redeemer (as the International Standard Version translates it - "the King of Israel and its Redeemer". Yahweh is both Israel's king and redeemer. Yahweh is saying in Isaiah 44:6 that He (Yahweh) is the only almighty God. He...
  8. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    I am not an expert on Greek, but I have read in the past that there are no seperate words for he, she or it, that it is all the same word in Greek. The Online Bible Greek Lexicon describes ekeinos as meaning "he, she it, etc.", and says that in the KJV it is translated as "that 99, those 40...
  9. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    It's not corrupted. The Greek word ecclesia can be translated as assembly or church. In the KJV it is translated as church 115 times and as assembly 3 times. Other translations also use 'assembly' in Matthew 18:17, e.g. Darby, Young's Literal Translation, Literal Standard Version, Hebrew...
  10. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    (1Ti 3:15) which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. That clearly states that the church is the pillar and ground of the truth, not just a few select members of the church. I can point out verses of Scripture to you, but I can't make you believe them if you...
  11. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    Not necessarily! While we may learn and understand more as we continue studying God's word, that doesn't mean that we all reach the same level of understanding. We may already understand more than that 95 year old, or we may not. Some start with wrong foundational truths and don't break free...
  12. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    What makes you think that nobody noticed?! The Roman Catholic church persecuted a lot of Christians because their beliefs were different to what the Pope and bishops said they should be. You said they believed in the Trinity, which is contrary to the Bible, therefore I consider them to be...
  13. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    Except, as I mentioned when I started this thread, Matthew didn't include the words "baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" in his Gospel - it was added later, corrupting the verse. A forgery!
  14. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    (We seem to be covering every topic under the sun here!) It was God's (Yahweh's) creation, His design, His will and His command that it be created, and, as you quoted from John 1:3, He created it through Jesus, through the agency of His son. As it says in Colossians 1: 16) For by him were...
  15. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    No, I don't understand how you can think that God's son is called Yahweh from the Old Testament. Reveal that to me if you can (from the Old Testament only). Is the Holy Spirit also called Yahweh? I'm not aware of the Holy Spirit having a name. If Jesus is Yahweh then that means the Trinity...
  16. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    I perfectly understand that the Word [Jesus] existed and was with God [Yahweh] (John 1:1) "in the beginning [when] God created the heaven and the earth" (Genesis 1:1), according to the word of God (the Bible). Reference? I'm aware of Peter saying regarding Paul's letters, "There are some...
  17. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    You what? :confused:
  18. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    The Gospel of John is written in Greek, regardless of what language Jesus spoke. Jesus and the disciples are believed to have spoken Aramaic - Hebrew was only used for religious purposes.
  19. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    I don't care how many people were unaminous in their beliefs, if their beliefs were an apostasy, a falling away from the truth that Jesus and the Apostles taught. As Jude and Peter wrote: 1:3) I was constrained to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once...
  20. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    'Echad' is a Hebrew word. The Greek word that's translated as 'one' in John 10:30 is 'heis' (hice), which means 'one', but doesn't mean 'more than one united'. It's the exact same word that Jesus/John uses in chapter 17 when Jesus prays for unity and love among Christians (IMO): 20) Not for...