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  1. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    That is a misquote, or deliberate falsifying of Scripture (I'd prefer to assume it was a mistake). You didn't give a Bible reference, so I'll do it for you: John 1:18 (WEB): No one has seen God at any time. The one and only Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has declared him. It does...
  2. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    John 14:23) Jesus answered him, “If a man loves me, he will keep my word. My Father will love him, and we will come to him, and make our home with him. John 14:20) In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you. Colossians 1:27) to whom God was pleased to make...
  3. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    Heb 5 (WEB): 1) For every high priest, being taken from among men, is appointed for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins. 2) The high priest can deal gently with those who are ignorant and going astray, because he himself is also surrounded with...
  4. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    John 20:17 - Jesus said to her, “Don’t hold me, for I haven’t yet ascended to my Father; but go to my brothers, and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” Yep, still there! And here's me thinking that "All scripture is given by inspiration of God...
  5. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    Similar logic - of course Jesus isn't God because he said "my Father" and "my God", and "my Father is greater than I", and "the Father hath sent me", etc.. This has been covered before (e.g. four replies ago - #757). That is a badly translated verse which gives the opposite meaning to what it...
  6. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    This is a Bible study forum where people can discuss the Bible, with the aim of sharing their understanding of the Bible and of learning new things from the Bible, so that we may all grow in our knowledge and understanding of God's word to us. If you start dsallowing people to share their...
  7. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    If you expecting to read a verse that simply says "Jesus is not God", then you won't find it. It also doesn't say "Paul is not God", "Isaiah is not God", etc.. You have to use common sense and logic, or as God puts it, "“Come now, and let’s reason together,” says Yahweh" (Isaiah 1:18). Yes...
  8. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    No he didn't (I won't bother explaining it again!). Note Paul said: 1 Corinthians 15:10 (KJV): But by the grace of God I am what I am: Do you think Paul was claiming to be God (Yehovah/Yahweh) too? Jesus is never referred to as Jesus Jehovah in the Bible! Yes, Jesus, since his...
  9. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    I don't deny that Jesus has the divine nature (since his resurrection), but if you want an example of Jesus lying, how about: John 11:11 (WEB): he said to them, “Our friend, Lazarus, has fallen asleep, but I am going so that I may awake him out of sleep.” I'm sure kcnalp would say that was a...
  10. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    1 John 3:2 (WEB): "Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is." So that is saying that Christians will, after their resurrection, share the same spiritual nature...
  11. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    It was something that no descendant of Adam and Eve could do, because everyone had inherited their corrupted sinful nature. That is whay Jesus was born of a virgin, with God supplying the uncorrupted DNA. This is why God said in Genesis 3:15, "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman...
  12. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    You'll have to ask the Jehovah's Witnesses if they say that; I can't confirm it because I am not a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses. But, "Jesus came to them and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth”", (Matthew 28:18), in which case I'm sure many...
  13. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    Yes, Jesus will be referred to as a "mighty god", for he has great power ("mighty") and wisdom ("wonderful counselor"), he is the Prince of Peace and he will establish peace on the Earth, and he is the father of eternity (literal translation, not "eternal father") - through Jesus we will have...
  14. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    Indeed. Not only that but: Numbers 23:19 (WEB): God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should repent. ... and Malachi 3:6 (WEB): “For I, Yahweh, don’t change; ..." Jesus became a man, so he could not have been God, who never changes and is not a man. Jesus also...
  15. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    As I read the Cambridge Bible comment I understood it to mean that there was no word 'Lord' in the original Greek manuscript of Hebrews 1:10. It was not saying that there was no word 'Lord' in the LXX - that's the opposite of what it says - so the comment is not relying on the LXX manuscript...
  16. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    Romans 10:9 (WEB): that if you will confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Note that Paul did NOT say, "confess with your mouth that Jesus is God". Paul also said, (1 Cor 8:6) "yet to us there is one God, the...
  17. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    FYI, the Cambridge Bible notes for Hebrews 1:10 says, "Thou, Lord, in the beginning] The quotation is from Psa 102:25-27. The word “Lord” is not in the original, but it is in the LXX.; and the Hebrew Christians who already believed that it was by Christ that “God made the world” (see note on...
  18. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    Romans 10:9 (WEB): "that if you will confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." According to Paul I will be saved.
  19. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    Yes, I know that. But I still think that it should be 'god' rather than 'God', in Psalm 45 too. The translators choose whether or not to capitalise a word, and the Hebrew word elohim is translated as "god" 244 times in the Bible and so could/should be here. The Psalm is addressed to "the...
  20. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    That's not how I read it (are you surprised? :)). Taking the WEB translation, which I think has better punctuation: [God, Yahweh, is speaking (or Jesus speaking, as Yahweh's spokesperson)] 15) I, even I, have spoken; yes, I have called him. I have brought him, and he shall make his way...