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I'm not sure how many times I need to explain this to you but to clarify once and for all this what I believe.... The great tribulation is on the saints from the world. The wrath of God is on the ungodly. There can be many tribulations in life for example my wife is going through breast...

I think that you meant this for spiritual Israelite not me

But the verse you quoated that th eauthority has already been given to Jesus `...the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son,......the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, & has given Him authority to execute judgment also...

Do you believe that this took place already?

No, and I don't fail to see at God says the church is called to endure great tribulation, while those in unbelief shall receive the wrath of God. Your just stuck on words and not even trying to see what I have explained multiple times. Words can have different meaning

We agree here in your second sentence, but the wrath of God is also a tribulation time period for the ones who the wrath falls upon

Yes exactly

Because I've explained a few times now that "the great tribulation" in Revelation 7 is on the church, the same events as Matthew 24:9 and the wrath of God upon apostate Isreal was a great tribulation time period for them. If you can't see that and separate them then I can't explain it anymore

Well it all make scence now

So he thinks Daniel chapter 10 is people not angles? Wow

Yes of course haven't disputed that

Really? He doesn't believe that they exist

After post #695 I actually think that his purpose is only to frustrate and play games. He answerEd my direct question with an waste of time question like he’s just playing a game and trying to frustrate me and probably laughed about it. He has constantly avoided direct questions he’s not...

Which city? Literal of spiritual?

Because if they don't repent they will suffer they won't be apart of the church But this is my point anyone saved or unsaved can have tribulation in their life

Why do you keep claiming that I believe things that I don't? Of course, we now are spiritual Jerusalem and the true Holy Temple, I have repeated that more than once in this thread. It is unethical to miss represent me. I have also said many times that "the great tribulation" is on the church...

Exactly there are many tribulations in scripture, let the rest of the scriptures revel the true meaning of scripture

Thanks for this post but then see post #671. It's no confusion or contradition

The wrath of God was also a tribulation time for the Jews , just like the second world war was a tribulation time for the Jews. Just like calling it a time of trouble But the specified "The great tribulation" is on the church. I can't understand why you can't get this, I am not saying that the...

You are not being honest here I just clarified to you that I believe that the great tribulation is on the church