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  1. keithr

    Tongues

    I think most people would agree that Billy Graham was a Christian, and through his crusades, he preached the gospel to more people in person than anyone in the history of Christianity (see Billy Graham - Wikipedia). And yet he was not a charismatic. When asked about the gift of speaking in...
  2. keithr

    Tongues

    1Corinthians 12:29-30 (KJV): 29) Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? 30) Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret? Or as the TLV translates it: 29) All are not emissaries, are they? All are not prophets, are...
  3. keithr

    Hell

    Concerning Satan: Ezekiel 28:16 (KJV): ... I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. "Destroy" is a translation of the Hebrew word abad, which occurs 184 times in the Old Testament, translated as perish 98 times, destroy 62 times. Ezekiel 28:18 (KJV): ...
  4. keithr

    Hell

    Those very symbolic verses that I quoted are part of the Scriptures! I do believe the Scriptures, and I desire to understand them as best as I can. I do stick to the Scriptures rather than believing erroneous ideas invented during the Dark Ages. Why don't you believe the Scriptures?! I've...
  5. keithr

    Hell

    The Old and New Testaments have the same author - God. Therefore they are in agreement and in harmony. If we think that they are not in harmony then it is not because God made a mistake, it is because our interpretation must be incorrect. Only when our interpretation is in harmony with both...
  6. keithr

    Hell

    The previous verse says: (Rev 20:9) They went up over the width of the earth, and surrounded the camp of the saints, and the beloved city. Fire came down out of heaven from God and devoured them. So all of the people that side wilth Satan are devoured, consumed, or destroyed by fire coming...
  7. keithr

    Hell

    As Chuck Missler often said, "The New Testament is in the Old Testament concealed; the Old Testament is in the New Testament revealed". The author of both is God: (2 Timothy 3:16) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for...
  8. keithr

    Hell

    What is your point? Ezekiel 28:13 says he was in Eden, so it had to be Satan. (Eze 28:15) You were perfect in your ways from the day that you were created, until unrighteousness was found in you. How many Cherubim have become unrighteous apart from Satan? I'm sorry, but I don't understand...
  9. keithr

    Hell

    There are many verses that teach us that the penalty for sin is death, not an eternal life of suffering. Death is compared to a sleep, an unconscious state, and we will awake when we are resurrected - sleeping is not suffering! If you have read my responses in this thread then you will have...
  10. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    In John 3:16 Jesus says that God "gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life". Paul confirms it in Romans 8:3 (WEB): For what the law couldn’t do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness...
  11. keithr

    Hell

    In Ezekiel 28:19 God says "you will exist no more". Are you calling God a liar? I'm using the Old Testament to help you understand the New Testament. It is all God's word! The punishment for sin is death. Jesus is consistent in using the same symbolic language for the second death. If it's...
  12. keithr

    Hell

    You're mixing up Gehenna and Hades again, and taking the parable literally.
  13. keithr

    Hell

    I presume you haven't done that studying or else you would have enlightened us! The "covering cherub" is only referred to in this chapter of Ezekiel. God says: (Eze 28:13) You were in Eden, the garden of God. Who was in Eden? Answer: Adam, Eve, God, and Satan. It's not refering to Adam or...
  14. keithr

    Hell

    Judas went on to commit suicide. Everyone who commits suicide, by that act, is confessing that they wished that they had never been born. The advantages of his wasted life did not overbalance the sorrows and anguish which terminated in despair, suicide and the second death. There will not be...
  15. keithr

    Hell

    They will suffer the second death, from which there will be no resurrection to life again, i.e. they will perish, and be utterly destroyed. (Psa 9:5) You have rebuked the nations. You have destroyed the wicked. You have blotted out their name forever and ever. (Psa 37:38) As for...
  16. keithr

    Hell

    All the verses that use the word Gehenna are spoken by Jesus, except one verse (James 3:6). He always uses the word to represent destruction, e.g.: (Mat 5:29) If your right eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it away from you. For it is more profitable for you that one of your...
  17. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    The price for the redemption of Adam's life is the penalty for sin applied to an equal substitute for Adam, i.e. it required the death of a perfect human being, not a spirit being hiding inside a human body (like demon possession?). As I mentioned, God cannot have done that because he does not...
  18. keithr

    Hell

    I'm not going round this loop again. Your questions have already been answered - read the previous replies. It seems that you are incapable of understanding it. No live person burns in hell (Gehenna) fire.
  19. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    Yes it is Yahweh (Jehovah), who is saying that he existed before all of His creation, and he will always exist, and that he is the only almighty God and that there is no other almighty God but Him. Not quite! The Revelation verses are referring to Jesus, who was the first of all God's...
  20. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    (Gen 3:19) By the sweat of your face will you eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For you are dust, and to dust you shall return.”