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  1. keithr

    Hell

    Well above (e.g. reply #141) you quoted many translations, starting with: Acts 2:27 (NKJV) 27 For You will not leave my soul in Hades, Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption. So as you can see it plainly says Hades. That is the Greek word untranslated and left as it is. Check it...
  2. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    Yes, he was not always human, and is no longer human. But he became human, 100% human just like us: (Rom 8:3) For what the law couldn’t do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh; (Php 2:7)...
  3. keithr

    Hell

    What am I making up? Most of the translations you quoted leave the word hades untranslated. You seem to favour the NKJV which says (full verse): "he, foreseeing this, spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that His soul was not left in Hades, nor did His flesh see corruption." He...
  4. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    On the contrary, only a human life can redeem mankind, which is why Jesus had to become a human in order to redeem us. Yes, Jesus existed before the earth was created: (John 1:1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God But in order to redeem us God changed Jesus' nature from...
  5. keithr

    Hell

    My goodness, you really are stupid! :rolleyes: Those 32 translations all agree that Jesus was in the same place (they're all translating the same Greek word "hades"!), they just call it by different names - Hades (original Greek untranslated), Sheol (original Hebrew from the Old Testament verse...
  6. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    And as usual you have ignored my explanation of that. Nothing new.:(
  7. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    Christians may not be condemned under the law, because God forgives us, but that does not mean that they do not still commit sins (and if we love God we should keep his commandments/laws). (Heb 10:14) For by one offering he has perfected forever those who are being sanctified. By one offering...
  8. keithr

    Hell

    I thought you were just kidding. Surely you're not really that ignorant or stupid? :eek: Surely you realise that hell (and grave in some of the translations) is just a translation of Hades? Why did you miss out the KJV (the translation which introduced the word hell, rather than grave), which...
  9. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    That's a poor translation that gives the opposite meaning to what it should be! The WEB, for example, translates it as : (Php 2:6) who, existing in the form of God, didn’t consider equality with God a thing to be grasped, If Jesus wanted equality with God (Yahweh) then why was he doing God's...
  10. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    This is basic Christian faith! The whole of the Bible is all about God redeeming mankind from sin and death, which could only be done by finding a substitute to pay the penalty for sin (death). No man could do it because they were all corrupted and had a sinful nature, inherited from Adam, and...
  11. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    In that case Jesus is a liar (unless you are wrong!): Jesus said before his death, John 10: 33) The Jews answered him, “We don’t stone you for a good work, but for blasphemy: because you, being a man, make yourself God.” 34) Jesus answered them, “Isn’t it written in your law, ‘I said, you are...
  12. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    There is nothing wrong with reading different translations of the Bible. It can sometimes help you discover or understand the correct meaning, even if you don't trust the accuracy of those translations. I have never quoted any of those translations or publications. But just quoting a...
  13. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    I did not make any alterations to the verses that I quoted. They were straightforward cut & pastes. I even included the abbreviation of the Bible translations that I copied from. I have been completely honest here, and you can easily check that. Why are you accusing me of trying to deceive...
  14. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    1 John 2:1 (TLV): My children, I am writing these things to you so that you will not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an Intercessor with the Father—the righteous Messiah Yeshua. Anyone who is begotten again can still commit sins, for "As it is written, “There is no one righteous; no, not...
  15. keithr

    Hell

    Jesus was sinless, but he took on the sins of the world: (Heb 4:15) For we don’t have a high priest who can’t be touched with the feeling of our infirmities, but one who has been in all points tempted like we are, yet without sin. (Heb 9:28) so Christ also, having been offered once to bear...
  16. keithr

    Hell

    This is my last response to you. It's simply to present more Bible verses for you to study. In Peter's teaching on the day of Pentecost, he said (Acts 2:22-32, KJV): 22) Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs...
  17. keithr

    Hell

    I still don't see what God destroying Sodom and Gomorrah has to do with the idea that there is a literal eternal lake of fire and a place called Sheol/Hell where people will be sent to spend eternity (despite the Scriptures clearly saying that the penalty for disobedience is death and eternal...
  18. keithr

    Hell

    Why do I need to rewrite the Bible to prove that what the Bible says is correct? The Bible clearly says "they will be destroyed forever". Why don't you believe 'your' Bible? Instead of attacking me and my qualifications, why don't you respond with Bible verses that you think supports your...
  19. keithr

    Hell

    I'm not rewriting it! I'm just trying to help you understand what it means.
  20. keithr

    Hell

    (Act 2:31) he foreseeing this spoke about the resurrection of the Christ, that his soul wasn’t left in Hades, and his flesh didn’t see decay. You're saying that the Bible is a pack of lies! I'm afraid if that's you're attitude then I can't help you. :(