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  1. Rich R

    Were the Church Fathers Sent by God?

    Well. from this and your previous statement that the Bride is the same as the Body, I can tell you don't understand the mystery that I'm talking about, the one that was hid in God until He revealed it to Paul. I don't mean to demean you in any way for a lack of knowledge. One can't know what...
  2. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    Then why do you keep talking?
  3. Rich R

    Were the Church Fathers Sent by God?

    What do you think is the mystery that was hid in God until He revealed it to Paul? Col 1:26, even the mystery which hath been hid from all ages and generations: but now hath it been manifested to his saints, Whist is "now" if not in contrast to the past ages and generations? Did Moses or...
  4. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    There's not much I can say about such a caustic post other than you've managed to take the "new" math (1+1+1=3 in 1) to a higher level for sure. :)
  5. Rich R

    Were the Church Fathers Sent by God?

    Well, in the OT a Gentile could be joined up with the Jews. As such they became part of the Bride of Christ. Paul talked about the Body of Christ. In the OT God dwelt in the tabernacle. According to Paul, God dwells within the body, where there is no Jew or Gentile. Col 3:10-11, 10 and have...
  6. Rich R

    Were the Church Fathers Sent by God?

    Yes. Not many Christians have been taught that the Apostle Paul was give a gospel that is quite different than that of Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John. Rom 2:16, In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my (Paul's) gospel. Rom 16:25, Now to him that is of...
  7. Rich R

    Were the Church Fathers Sent by God?

    Well, actually Ephesians 2 (particularly vs 14 & 15) is clear that God made a new creation composed of both Jews and Gentiles. They are called the Body of Christ. That body is the dwelling place of God. Just read Ephesians 2. You'll see it. Then there's this: Gal 3:28, There is neither Jew...
  8. Rich R

    Were the Church Fathers Sent by God?

    That's what I was thinking. Otherwise God gave some pretty unsavory individuals to the church, what with the burning at the stake, child abuse, and more.
  9. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    How sad to have no sense of humor.
  10. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    I'd think that trying to make make three gods somehow really one god would definitely make one's brain smoke. Just kidding around. :)
  11. Rich R

    Were the Church Fathers Sent by God?

    I guess I misunderstood you a wee bit. Sorry about that. :) I'm not a JW, a Oneness Pentecostal, or any thing that I know of. I'm just a little 'ol son of God!
  12. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    Well, if we don't substitute the word "Jesus" for "Word." It all makes sense, but we must first discover what the logos actually is. It's not that difficult. Even virtually all Trinitarian scholars understand that the word "logos" means, more or less, a plan. God had a plan from the beginning...
  13. Rich R

    Were the Church Fathers Sent by God?

    I appreciate your willingness to discuss this as a brother to a sister. Believe me, it all too often gets ugly really fast when discussing the nature of Jesus and God. I've been told many many times I'm not saved, that I walk in the dark, I'll burn for eternity, and more. It no longer bothers...
  14. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    Very good, but at least you saw the truth in what he said. It's funny; in my last post I said 2 Timothy 2:15 said, "rightly dividing the Word of God." But how ironic that I misquoted it. It says, "the word of truth." The road is narrow indeed and easy to end up in the boonies! :)
  15. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    Now that's exactly what I think Paul had in mind when he told Timothy to rightly divide the Word of truth. Excellent job of honest research brother!
  16. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    The key here in your phrase "Biblical Christianity." Is it really Biblical? In the interest of inclusion. I looked at the rules and I don't see anything that says I have to believe Jesus is God, but if I'm wrong I'll respect the rules and leave. BTW, I do see a mention about respecting other...
  17. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    You know what they say about an oft repeated lie; it becomes the truth. Two thousand years of a lie is hard to shake. I understand that. But, geez, when presented with clear cut evidence that totally goes against tradition ought to at least cause one to pause and reconsider. Here's the big...
  18. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    Well, I was hoping to get a specific answer as to why Timothy and Corinthians don't contradict when one is taken to say the Son and the Father are both God whereas the other clearly says only the Father is God. But, alas, all I get is extra-Biblical assertions. I guess Trinitarians don't care...
  19. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    There is no point in telling me my mind is carnal, that I, as a born again Christian, do not have the mind of Christ. It's just a knee jerk reaction because I said something you disagree with. I know you can do better. Let's stick with the scriptures and leave out the accusations. How is one...
  20. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    How is one verse saying only the Father is God and another seeming to say God the Son (which phrase is not actually in the Bible, but we'll go with it for now) is also God not a contradiction? Assuming you now see the contradiction, perhaps it could be cleared up by re-examining the part about...