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Oh, my. What then are we to do with: 1 Cor 8:6, But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him. Timothy seems to be a glaring contradiction with Corinthians. Yikes! Any ideas on how to...

Well, I don't claim to be an Apostle, if that's what you're thinking. But I have a mouth and I know a little bit about the scriptures, enough to help someone who's suffering or in pain in this world anyway. Eph 4:11-12, 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists...

I didn't think of that one, but it sure says to talk it up! Thanks.

I did, but not anymore! Thanks.

God give all born again believers holy spirit, Christ in them (Col 1:27). I totally disagree with the scriptures not being logical. They are actually the epitome of logic. Maybe you've just never considered that. I know a lot are satisfied to take things by faith, never thinking the faith is...

I believe the verses I quoted.

Good question. Here's what Wikipedia says: The Church Fathers, Early Church Fathers, Christian Fathers, or Fathers of the Church were ancient and influential Christian theologians and writers who established the intellectual and doctrinal foundations of Christianity. The historical period in...

Thanks. That's our back yard. We still have plenty of apples up here. :)

Technically, I was wrong to say we are commissioned. I may have been a bit loose in choosing my words. Good catch! However there is this: Acts 8:3-4, 3 As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed [them] to prison. 4 Therefore they...

I think it does help, even though it's obvious. That's what the Bereans did in Acts 17.

Yes, Good point. God did actually commission all of us to preach the Good News. I guess the standard is whether or not what anybody says agrees with the scriptures or not. I suppose it would be wrong to summarily discount everything the Church Fathers said without verifying from the scriptures...

I'll go with anything anybody says so long as it does not contradict the scriptures. For example, Athenasius says we must believe in the trinity to be saved. There is nowhere in the scriptures that says that. There are several places where the scriptures say how to be saved, but none come even...

I was just thinking of leaving the Bible Study Forum. I think it might be more appropriate to post on the Debate Forum. Thanks for our support!

I forgot about Barnabas. I think it fair to say Barnabas, like Paul, never contradicted the scriptures as did the Church Fathers. Thanks for the reminder!

Well, Jesus came about because God implanted His seed in Mary's womb. I don't know if that would be considered as having been created. God created Adam perfect and Adam blew it. All of Adam's descendants wore born with the same sin nature as Adam. Genesis 1 goes out of the way to emphasize that...

That's what I'm thinking brother, but there is a lot of faith that many Christians put into what the Church Fathers said, so I was wondering if they had any real authority to say the things they said. Personally, I don't any think any of them, as sincere as they may have been, were commissioned...

Google "shaliah." It is all about how the ancient Hebrews, as well as all the other Ancient Near East people, understood agency. Jesus was God's perfect agent. As God's agent, he always said and did exactly what his principle, God, told him to say and do. There are tons of agents God used...

Strong's Concordance definition of Apostle: G652 ἀπόστολος apostolos (a-po'-sto-los) n. 1. a delegate. 2. (specially) an ambassador of the Gospel. 3. (officially) a commissioner of Christ, “apostle” (with miraculous powers). Paul said many times that he was an apostle sent by God. 1 Cor 1:1...

Since I seem to be upsetting so many of my brothers and sisters, I think I'll bow out of this discussion. I love you all. Thanks for your stand with our Father! :)

If spirituality means throwing logic and the meaning of everyday words to the four winds, then yes, I do have a distinct lack of spirituality. BTW, I thought Jesus was given the power of judgment of who is lost and who isn't. I didn't realize there were others, such as yourself, given the same...