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  1. Wick Stick

    Has the church got Genesis all wrong?

    The Druze religion I've heard of didn't exist til two thousand years later. Is there another Druze religion? Or, where did you read that? Also, I went to the Druze wikipedia page and remembered being there before. I may need to go touch grass. Jethro means "his excellency." Haha it sounds...
  2. Wick Stick

    Has the church got Genesis all wrong?

    It isn't explicit, but... context. Nobody thinks it's talking about Pharoah here, even though he is Moses' adopted father. Context steers us away from that interpretation. The context here should point us strongly towards Jethro. This aim of the chapter seems to be to impress on us the...
  3. Wick Stick

    Has the church got Genesis all wrong?

    I don't think Judaism has a problem with this. Judaism prioritizes tradition over truth. I kinda hate how that sounds, but unfortunately I think it's true. The problem is for those who hold to the idea that Genesis is literal. It isn't obvious in my original post, but it calls into question...
  4. Wick Stick

    Has the church got Genesis all wrong?

    The church views Genesis as a single, literal, historical, chronological, mostly first-hand account stretching from the beginning of the universe to the beginning of the nation of Israel. The academic community disagrees. It sees Genesis as a compilation of works, some of them mythological...
  5. Wick Stick

    Another one bites the dust, Queer Queen, 90yr old Feinstein is dead.

    I laughed way too hard at this. I actually feel bad for laughing when someones died.
  6. Wick Stick

    Did Jesus tell the Pharisees that they were gods? - John 10:34

    Strong's concordance has the meaning of אֱלֹהִים as: (plural) rulers, judges divine ones angels gods (plural intensive - singular meaning) god, goddess godlike one works or special possessions of God the (true) God God Ancient Hebrew only has about 8000 words, so most words have several...
  7. Wick Stick

    Does God care more for himself than he cares for us?

    @St. SteVen Isn't a major part of the gospel the union of God and man? I think so. If we become one with God, if we are in symbiosis with Him, then does this question even make sense? How can God prioritize Himself over man, when man has a standing invitation to participate in the Godhead?
  8. Wick Stick

    Who Wrote the Books of Moses?

    Esau IS Edom. Amalek is one of the tribes of Edom. The Kenites are another tribe of Edom. (Genesis 36) When Saul attacked the Amalekites and destroyed them, when he arrived the Kenites were living among the Amalekites. He sent word to the Kenites to evacuate. (1 Samuel 15) It seems like the...
  9. Wick Stick

    Who Wrote the Books of Moses?

    Ok, in what sense? Like they were descendants of Canaan the son of Ham the son of Noah? (The Bible says not) Or like they settled in the region of the city of Cana? (Archaeology says they didn't) Or like they settled in the territory that was historically under the control of the Canaanites...
  10. Wick Stick

    Who Wrote the Books of Moses?

    As far as I know, the Kenites are the descendants of Kenaz, a grandson of Esau. (Gen 36) At least, that's what the paper I read claimed.
  11. Wick Stick

    Who Wrote the Books of Moses?

    Jethro was the high priest over Midian, but he wasn't a Midianite. The Bible says he was a Kenite: Judges 1:16 And the children of the Kenite, Moses' father in law, went up out of the city of palm trees with the children of Judah into the wilderness of Judah, which [lieth] in the south of...
  12. Wick Stick

    Is baptism necessary for salvation?

    John 3: "You must be born again." The purpose of being "born again" is to change your parents. But more tellingly, the Jewish people have used immersion as an adoption ceremony for over 2000 years. Should one convert to Judaism, part of that process is to be baptized "into Abraham," which is...
  13. Wick Stick

    Is baptism necessary for salvation?

    John 3: "You must be born again." The purpose of being "born again" is to change your parents. But more tellingly, the Jewish people have used immersion as an adoption ceremony for over 2000 years. Should one convert to Judaism, part of that process is to be baptized "into Abraham," which is...
  14. Wick Stick

    Who Wrote the Books of Moses?

    Most of Orthodox Christianity uses this as a vouch-safe. "Inspired" is commonly held to mean "error-free." I know I was taught that. However, I find a couple problems with that equivalence. First, do we even have the original text? The manuscripts of Scripture that we have contain many...
  15. Wick Stick

    Is baptism necessary for salvation?

    Adoption is necessary for salvation. Baptism is an adoption ceremony. Can you be adopted without having a ceremony? Yes. Is that usually how it happens? No.
  16. Wick Stick

    Who Wrote the Books of Moses?

    Everyone has a flood story, but this one is very close to the Biblical account. In the story the sons' names are Shem, Sham, and Jiputnu - very close to the Shem, Ham, and Japheth in Genesis.
  17. Wick Stick

    Who Wrote the Books of Moses?

    Yep. But that name was given to it by the folks who translated it into Greek about a thousand years after it was written, so we shouldn't read too much into the name. Deuteronomy gives us its setting. The Israelites are camped in "Shittim" - the Acacia forest to the east of the Jordan and a...
  18. Wick Stick

    Who Wrote the Books of Moses?

    Oh, another one... Part of the story of Noah and the Flood (Gen 6-9) appears to have a common source with the Rig Veda. Noah has a different name there, but his 3 sons have similar names, and there's a great flood. Having trouble finding a reference.. not used to looking up Hindu texts o_O...
  19. Wick Stick

    Who Wrote the Books of Moses?

    Well... Exodus and Deuteronomy duplicate a bunch of material. One of them was copied from the other... or they both were copied from a common text that pre-dates them both. Scholars used to think Exodus was earlier and Deuteronomy was the "2nd Law." Recently most have reversed course on that...
  20. Wick Stick

    Who Wrote the Books of Moses?

    It's a forgery. 8th century AD at earliest. Kind of undermines the rest of the post, which is otherwise pretty good. o_O