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  1. OzSpen

    The gift of tongues

    Josho, 1 Cor 12:30 (ESV) asks, 'Do all speak with tongues?' The Greek anticipates a 'No' answer. Why? There is a diversity of gifts and not all have the gift of tongues. It would be a strange body if it was dominated by one or very few physical functions. It would be a strange body of Christ if...
  2. OzSpen

    Is belief in the existence of God irrational?

    That's an oxymoron. Fairy stories never actually happen. So to say that the Gospels are 'the greatest fairy stories' is baloney! To say that 'they actually happened' is speaking truth.
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    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    What does 1 Tim 3:15 (NIV) state? '15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth'. There is not a word here that states that the church, even the Roman Catholic Church or...
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    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    This is false, Kepha, and you ought to know it if you read your Bible. The apostle Paul taught it long before the Reformers. The Reformers discovered what the Scriptures taught: '8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9...
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    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    Tom, Again you confuse two views of the church - the Catholic Church and the Roman Catholic Church. As a Protestant, I'm a member of the Catholic, meaning universal, church. I am not associated with the Roman Catholic Church, which you are. Luther, a fallible human interpreter, showed where...
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    Are you saying that the relationship with the Holy Spirit conflicts with Acts 17:11 (NIV) which...

    Are you saying that the relationship with the Holy Spirit conflicts with Acts 17:11 (NIV) which reads, 'Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said...
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    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    I base my interpretation on what the Bible teaches and not on what a church teaches. Also, I'm open to Acts 17:11 (ESV) correction from Scripture. The RCC is not open to Acts 17:11, especially when the Pope speaks ex-cathedra. Bye, bye, Oz
  8. OzSpen

    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    This is utterly false. I've provided biblical material to demonstrate its falsehood but kepha31 has a higher authority than Scripture so you decide 'Scripture alone' is a 'man made' doctrine when it's a biblical teaching. Bye, bye baby goodbye. :wub:
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    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    kepha, You wrote: Nice try, but no cigar! :wacko: Paul told the Bereans to 'examine the Scriptures daily' to examine if what Paul preached and what others preached was true. The Berean Christians examined the Scriptures alone and not Pope's encyclicals to determine if the preaching was correct...
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    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    kepha, You build another straw man fallacy. Again you give us a straw man fallacy. What does Acts 17:11 (ESV) state? 'Now these Jews [at Berea] were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so'...
  11. OzSpen

    Soul sleep

    Phoneman, This is filtered reasoning. You have left out biblical material that contradicts your view. Note Matthew 10:28, “And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.” It obviously indicates immortality if it...
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    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    Here you go again with your loving to emphasise the importance of Church Councils determining the books in the canon. Geisler (please learn to spell his name correctly) demonstrated sound reasons/criteria for determining the books of the Bible (canonicity). Oz
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    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    What question? The one at #342: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Never mind.
  14. OzSpen

    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    So you can't tolerate Dr Norman Geisler's criteria for canonicity? :popcorn:
  15. OzSpen

    Soul sleep

    You seem to be missing a fundamental understanding of the Greek tenses. In English the tenses (present, past and future) depend on the TIME of the action. That is not so in Greek where tense generally refers to the KIND of action (except in the indicative mood) and not the TIME of action. In...
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    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    There is not a word in your post #331 that affirms the infallibility of the Church. That's a RCC interpretation but it is not found in Scripture. Since we don't have common ground on acceptance of the authority of Scripture alone, I don't see any reason for further discussion here. I have many...
  17. OzSpen

    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    You have not quoted Scripture. It is only Scripture that is inspired (God-breathed). See 2 Tim 3:16-17 (ESV). Ignatius of Antioch and the Pope are not inspired (inerrant) according to Scripture. Oz
  18. OzSpen

    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    See #316. See also, "Does God Observe the Law of Contradiction? ... Should We?" (PDF), by Richard L. Pratt, Jr. Some more criteria for determining which books should be in the Bible are in Dr Norman Geisler's article, 'The Canonicity of the Bible'. Oz
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    Soul sleep

    Phoneman, There are many reasons to demonstrate that soul sleep is a non-biblical doctrine supported by certain denominations such as the SDAs, JWs, Christadelphians, etc. Here is one aspect of the evidence against soul sleep: The Bible sometimes describes the state of death as “sleep” or...