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  1. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    They "just so happen" to lead to death--just as it says in Romans 6. Based on my interactions with you, I'm not surprised you're going to try to spin this plain truth as well.
  2. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    "mortify the deeds of the flesh" You were the one who said it was about Jews trusting in their pedigree. The terms "according to the flesh" and "walking after the flesh" just don't address the same issues. I reject your claims about what Paul is saying. Paul is mocking their pseudo spiritual...
  3. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Well, that's what this discussion is about--why the guy is condemned when there's no condemnation in Christ. Obviously, he's not remaining in Christ. Then we see that, yes, indeed, remaining in Christ is by obedience (Jn 15; 1 Jn 3:23,24). Nope, when I walk after the spirit--being fully...
  4. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    No, i. Romans was written mostly to the Jewish Christians in Rome (a. Ro 2:17 "you call yourself a Jew", b. "Abraham our forefather according to the flesh" Ro 4:1, "Brothers (for I speak to those who know the Law)," (Ro 7:1))--the Gentile Christians didn't possess (Ro 2:14) or know (Ro 7:1) the...
  5. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Never said it was. Already showed you context does not allow for that. 1. So, you deny that we abide by obeying--a doctrine taught by Apostle John (1 Jn 3:23,24)--I can't help that. 2. I never said the guy goes straight to hell, I merely asked why he was experiencing condemnation. I merely...
  6. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    No, we're saved as a gift, and walking after the spirit, which justifies at the Day of Judgment (Ro 2:6-16, 8:4), is a gift, which is, categorically not our own "works", because that term corresponds to "our own righteousness", but "God's righteousness is revealed from faith to faith" (Ro...
  7. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Yes, you already conceded the point when you said that, in your estimation, it referred to people who trusted in their Jewish pedigree. What does it mean to trust in your Jewish pedigree, and not notice that you're not meeting God's expectations of righteousness, so that you might resort to...
  8. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Nope, he's sinning against Christ when he harms his brothers with his faith he should keep between himself and God (1 Co 8:12). Moreover, context shows that v22 refers to one condemnation (bringing condemnation on oneself by exercising one's faith in a way that harms one's brothers), and v23...
  9. GracePeace

    Matthew 18 - Is Jesus Lying Or Are You Lying?

    The guy was forgiven, and the forgiveness was rescinded based on his behavior. It's as plain as day. You reject that. I accept that you reject that.
  10. GracePeace

    Matthew 18 - Is Jesus Lying Or Are You Lying?

    It's a parable, so it has elements that it wants to highlight. It's "odd" to me that you don't regard the most conspicuous elements--lessons it is definitively conveying--God rescinds forgiveness to a servant due to his misbehavior. That said, for my part, I would say the danger in being in...
  11. GracePeace

    Matthew 18 - Is Jesus Lying Or Are You Lying?

    Not "hypothetical" : Jesus says it applies directly to those of us who have been forgiven (35"That is how My heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother from your heart."), and it mirrors the Lord's prayer ("forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors")--and this...
  12. GracePeace

    Matthew 18 - Is Jesus Lying Or Are You Lying?

    Lol "he wasn't really saved" What kind of "salvation" does he need if not the forgiveness of all his sins?
  13. GracePeace

    Matthew 18 - Is Jesus Lying Or Are You Lying?

    I'm puzzled by your question. I don't understand where it's coming from. I didn't say salvation was eternal. I actually reject that notion.
  14. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    @CadyandZoe When Paul describes the one doing what he does not want to do in Romans 7, that is nothing other than "slavery". Paul says "all things are lawful but I will not be mastered by anything". Being forced to do what you do not want to do. But it's not that you don't want to do it at all...
  15. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    So, in your mind, all of that sinning described in Romans 7 is happening in Christ? 1 John 3 5You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. I see it, rather, that the spiritually immature are--as with the Galatians, who had "deserted God" and had been "cut...
  16. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Paul warns, in Romans 8:12,13 that the Christian who lives after the flesh will die, but that if, by the spirit, instead, they mortify the deeds of the flesh, they will live--and Romans 6 says if you offer your members to sin it leads to death. To your mind, this is mere coincidence?
  17. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    In case you're going to say that when Christians sin (as you insist Romans 7 depicts) it's just their outward man sinning, but, inwardly, they're still undefiled: 2 Corinthians 7 1Since we have these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from every defilement of body and spirit, bringing...
  18. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    You denied that eating with doubt was "a thing" at all, and denied that eating meat could be done without faith, with doubt : actually, that's exactly what sin is--having a yes and a no, walking after the flesh, is to be double minded, which is to not be fully persuaded, or to waver. You...
  19. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    You asked "Am I being condemned because my brother ate meat against his conscience? How does that work?" Easy: 1 Corinthians 8 7But not everyone has this knowledge. Some people are still so accustomed to idols that they eat such food as if it were sacrificed to an idol. And since their...
  20. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    @CadyandZoe You claimed Romans 8:1 is "definitional", and that, as such, it "defines" those "in Christ" as those who do not walk after the flesh but after the Spirit, yet you also claim Romans 7 is an accurate depiction of a Christian's life. You realize Romans 7 describes sin "killing" Paul...