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Tom, When will you learn to deal with the question I raised instead of running off with questions as your tangent? My question was: 'Where in the NT are the sprinkling of holy water and burning of incense a Christian practice?' You have used a red herring fallacy AGAIN. Not once in your reply...

Tom, You did not address the issues of exegesis that I raised in my post, so your response here is a red herring. You state: 'Whoever believes AND is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned'. That's from Mark 16:16 and it is NOT in the earliest manuscripts so it...

Most Baptist churches here in Brisbane that are affiliated with the Baptist Union celebrate the Lord's Supper once a month, as do Wesleyan Methodist churches. Presbyterians do it once every 3 months. In the last years of their lives, my parents attended a Christian Brethren assembly and they...

I'll do whatever my freewill wants me to do. :rolleyes:

Nowhere have I ever suggested that. That's your invention about me. Please quit your perpetrating falsehood abou

Stan, Again you refused to address what I wrote. It's another red herring fallacy. We can't have a logical conversation when you continue to do this. I was not bragging about my accomplishments. I was correcting your falsehood about me. When will you get it? Oz

Stan, However, I do know how to do historical investigation and assess documents from history. In the early years after the death of the apostles, Stan, the church used oral tradition to pass on the Scriptures - not the written word - because of the lack of literacy and availability of codex...

Stan, You got it badly wrong. You lied about me. When I say, 'etc', I mean exactly what the dictionary means by etcetera, 'Used at the end of a list to indicate that further, similar items are included' (Oxford dictionaries online 2016. s v etcetera'. I happen to be a former Assemblies of God...

That's hardly a reasonable explanation. You weren't there for the writing of the NT either. The facts are that you too easily speak about 'No where does the bible tell us we must believe the church. It tells us we must believe God's written word and Jesus's words which are recorded in the...

Stan, Where were the people of God able to find God's NT written word, including Jesus's words, in the first 300 years of the church's existence? Please provide this to me in plain language 'for those who have ears to hear and eyes to see'. Oz

Could Alistair Begg be closer to an assessment of this kind of music. See YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJhCWrdckpc&feature=youtu.be Oz

Why don't you provide us with a link to the song so we can listen to it? Is this the 'Start Over' song you mean? Do you have a copy of the lyrics you could post here for us to consider? Oz

Jun2u, You can read about it at Codex Sinaiticus. After you've read that information, then please tell us of its importance to understanding the New Testament. Oz

Jun, Please tell me what your understanding is of Codex Sinaiticus. Oz

Tom, ‘Believe first, baptism second’, as you state, does not confirm baptismal regeneration. I am not avoiding Scripture regarding baptism and salvation. Take 1 Peter 3:21 (ESV) as an example. This exposition proves other than what you are trying to promote: Does 1 Peter 3:21 teach that baptism...

Tom, You didn't answer the question I raised, so that makes your reply a red herring. You spun off at your own tangent trying to make it look as though it was related. It wasn't. Why can't you deal with the topic and example I raised? Oz

You'll be getting no clarification from me because I don't believe such practices are biblical. I simply gave an example of what happened at an RCC priest-led funeral a couple of weeks ago that I attended.

Jun2u, Are you saying you know better than Codex Sinaiticus, dated in the 4th century, located today in the British Museum in London, which does not include Mark 16:9-20? Are you so knowledgeable of the early Greek MSS that you KNOW for sure that Mark 16:9-20 is contained in the Bible because...

This is a red herring of a reply because you didn't address the issues I raised, but went off at your own tangent.

I've since check with the family and was told that for the last 3 years of his life (he suffered cancer for 12 years) he was in high care in a Roman Catholic nursing home. The RC priest brought him communion once a week. What happened at the funeral was organised by his wife and his family...