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Wormwood, My wife today gave me a link to John MacArthur, 'The Fitting End to Mark's Gospel (Mark 16:9-20) John MacArthur' (YouTube). Here he explains in excellent summary form why Mark 16 should end at v. 8 and that vv9-20 are a later addition. If gives sound reasons why these verses are not...

Jun, This would be amongst the most irrational piece of writing I've read in a long while. As I stated above, when you use a begging the question logical fallacy (as you've done again here), we cannot have a logical discussion. Hence, your irrational diatribe here. And you want to confirm that...

Richard, This is what happens when you ignore what I wrote to push your own view of Jesus's gospel of law + grace being different to what Paul preached. You obviously don't want to integrate the Scripture I gave from Luke 18:13-14 (ESV), John Piper's sermon in 'Did Jesus Preach the Gospel of...

Jun, Do you know what a begging the question logical fallacy is? Well, you've given it here. Here is an explanation of it: This is how you used it in your response to me: Oz: What criteria are you using to determine God's standard of evidence for Mark 16:9ff? Jun: Only the Bible which is the...

Wormwood, Bruce Metzger in his excellent assessment of the MSS evidence, The Text of the New Testament: Its Transmission, Corruption, and Restoration (3rd ed, Oxford University Press 1992) wrote of Mark's long ending: Jerome lived in ca AD 347-420. Oz

Jun2u, What criteria are you using to determine God's standard of evidence for Mark 16:9ff? Has God given you some special revelation to determine Mark 16:9ff should be IN and not OUT of the NT? Oz

Richard, I beg to differ. Luke 18:13–14 (ESV) proclaims the Gospel of God's grace through Jesus: “But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’ I tell you, this man went down to his house...

Wormwood, Regarding the content of your first paragraph. You are obviously writing as a person from the first world where there are lots of programs for the poor - provided by government. Try that perspective in Myanmar, the Philippines, India, the Central African Republic, Somalia or Peru...

Jun, Of course I believe and accept 2 Pet 1:21, but I do not accept the application that you want to draw between that verse and Mark 16:9ff. God never moved holy men of old to write Mark 16:9ff because the evidence does not point to these verses being in the NT. Don't you realise that the...

Butch5, You wrote: This is false for me. I taught Greek in one denominational school but was ordained with another denomination. This is a red herring fallacy. Gnostics, Marcion, Arius, etc were in the church. I'm also talking of false teachers in the church, whether they claim to be...

Wormwood, It doesn't seem to occur to churches and those training pastors that the pastoral role that has been invented for today does not resemble what is in Scripture for the pastor-teacher (Eph 4:11-16). Oz

Wormwood, Take a read of what you wrote in #143: You don't want the church to be doing what the Govt does in its social program or by turning churches into food pantries. I said you were way too harsh in this kind of judgment because of exactly what Jesus said in Matt 25:31-46 (ESV). Look at...

Wormwood, Yes it was somewhat of a rant. And you didn't even bother to address what I wrote. In case you forgot, here it is again: I think you are way too harsh in your assessment of what people have written in this thread. Take a read of Matt 25:31-46 (ESV). The Barrd's comment in #149 is...

Jun, Don't you understand the inconsistencies and contradictions in what you have written here: Mark 16:9-20 is not in Sinaiticus, a very early codex MSS of the NT. That is long before any MSS used by Erasmus for the Textus Receptus (TR), that was used by the KJV translators. You don't seem to...

Richard, That's your invention. All who are saved become part of the body of Christ, and that includes Jews and non-Jews (Gentiles). 'There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus' (Gal 3:28 NIV). In the ecclesia of...

In #17 you wrote: In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth. Gen 1:1 From everlasting to everlasting you are God. Psalms 90:2 His invisible attributes namely his Eternal power and Godhead have been clearly seen from the things that have been made. Romans 1:20 I think that Gen...

I never said a word that even comes close to what you are assuming with that question.

I think you are reading between the lines with these Scriptures.

I have nothing invested in my view except for careful exegesis of Scripture. I provided you with a biblical example of the purpose of the gifts (i.e. edification of the church) and you reject it. You have directly rejected what Scripture says. You say: 'Ever since the time of Constantine...

You blame the non-catholics for being divisive. But what was your argument here? A very divisive one by a catholic. So, it's not just the non-catholics who are divisive. The content of your post was self defeating.