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I wrote this post pretty quick as I only had a few minutes on my break. I was looking to edit it some, but for some reason I cannot. Pilgrimmer, by all means get some rest if needed and take your time answering. Like I said you have three obscure references. I call them obscure because...

Not true.... NO scriptural evidence supports Dec 25th, and nearly ALL historical evidence states that Dec 25th was picked due to pagan influences. Furthermore, the Christian writings you are referring to are closer to 100 years away from the Apostles and NOT based at all on what the Apostles...

Satan wasn't Lucifer. Lucifer was a man....

Get well soon, but what you've offered is not convincing when looked at all the evidence. You've got three obscure references and a bunch of maybes. The fact still remain that every credible encyclopedia and other sources disagree with you. Your picture????? No way of knowing when it was...

Amen!

Yea.... The problem is I know a man who actually went to Israel.... Asked real, live Israeli shepherds if sheep are in the fields in December. They said no, they are brought in.

Interesting link.... Seems like it came about by either christianizing a pagan holiday or listening to old jewish fables. In any sense, Suhar... Not only the part about the shepherds in the field, but also that it was tax time...

Wrll, at you admit your gospel is false... gotta hand yiu that e7

Just out of curiosity, where to you believe these men got such an idea? Did an Apostle tell them? Did they figure it out on their own? If the latter, how?

didn't know the I wasn't even aware there was one!!!!

I haven't seen it, but I googled it.... Are they really preachers? Is this a reality show? Is Melissa Scott pissed she's not involved? I probably wouldn't like it..... I love the office and pay due reverence to those who properly use it. Just seems so few do.

Dodo, for me it comes down to two things: First, December 25th is not his birthday and Jesus said those that must worship in spirit and in truth. Second, the evidence is pretty strong that that date was picked to coincide with a pagan festival. I don't believe in "christianizing" paganism...

As far as I understand the question, I tend to think Willimac is on to something.... Paul had his favorite catch phrases that he used... "God forbid!" For example. "All things are lawful unto me, but not all things are expedient". He said it at least 2 or 3 times in slightly different ways...

Perhaps not Dodo David... But what about the rest of what he said? I have to stand with willimac on this one.... When someone quotes a verse that another doesn't like, many times they fire up the riot engine: BAD TRANSLATION, BAD TRANSLATION, OUT OF CONTEXT!!!! BLA BLA BLA!!! Of course...

I haven't read nor listened to John Macarthur, so I hate to comment too much... However, gathering from what I have read in this post I must say I do believe everything in the Bible is right. However, does that mean God or his Angels don't communicate any further with some individuals...

Very sad to hear!

The sabbath was instituted before the Law, and while we can see the Lord ceased from his labor on the 7th day, perhaps a better scripture to use would be Exo 16:23. First, remember this was before the Law was given (chapter 20). Here, Moses tells them to store manna and cook it before the...

I'm busy and don't have time to elaborate right now.... But have a look at Matthew 12:1-13. Comments?

You welcome.

Well, it's narrow... So you, being fat and your works and righteousness (being fatter) can't fit. I unloaded.... I gave Jesus my baggage and walked through naked.