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The problem with that view is that it is not biblical. We are taught: 'But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14 And if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain and your faith is in vain' (1 Cor 15:13-14 ESV). There will be a...

I'm pleased to see you here, Josho. I hope we can have some insightful and even energetic Christian discussions. Which Christian-based country music do you enjoy? My wife plays a Floyd Cramer style country piano and jazz piano. Not any country music in churches around here in Brisbane. Most...

That is fanciful imagination for which you have provided not a shred of biblical evidence.

That's because you are missing an important part of the equation of what makes a holistic person. It is not the body that needs breath that goes to heaven at death. It is the soul, as Mark 8:36 (ESV) makes abundantly clear. You seem to be finding it awfully difficult to understand that the body...

I wouldn't. However, I would not exist without the soul in me. 'And what do you benefit if you gain the whole world but lose your own soul?' (Mark 8:36 NLT).

What departs from the body at death?

That is your conclusion but you have provided no exegesis or exposition to demonstrate that point. Are you a JW, Christadelphian or some other religion who does not believe in the existence of the soul/spirit who departs the human being at death to go to life beyond the grave? Do soul/spirit not...

ATP, You have asked this type of question throughout this thread. Your response to me here is a red herring fallacy. This was your response to my post: 'Here I demonstrate from Scripture that soul sleep is not a biblical teaching: 'Soul sleep: A refutation'. Your response does not address the...

N T exegete, R C H Lenski, in his commentary on Luke 16:22 (ESV), disagrees with you: '“Abraham’s bosom” is a Jewish designation for heaven. Abraham is the father of believers who stood at the head of the old covenant. When the soul goes where he is, that means entrance into heaven. “Bosom”...

Hades cannot mean the grave because the Greek word, mnemeion, is the word for grave, tomb in the NT. See Arndt & Gingrich's Greek-English lexicon (1957. Zondervan p. 526)

Talking about 'other scriptures' is a fruitless exercise when you provide zero evidence of such. I do not find your statement persuasive without the evidence to support it. I do wish you wouldn't make these kinds of innocuous statements that demonstrate nothing.

When I said you'd provided no exposition at #127, I was referring to: 'I believe Phil 1:23 works off of 2 Cor 5:8, and is speaking of the anxious heart of Paul. If you expand 2 Cor 5:8, you will see it is talking about the first resurrection'. You still have not provided an exposition of 2 Cor...

Butch, In this thread, I presented plenty of biblical evidence of life after death. It is NOT a philosophy gained from the Greeks or Gnosticism. It can be found throughout the OT & NT. See my articles, Life after Death: Current Controversies Those who live and believe in Jesus Christ shall...

What did Jesus say to the thief, who died on a cross beside Jesus, would be at death? He didn't say that he is 'dead' (your language). Luke 23:43 (ESV) states, 'And he said to him, 'Truly I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise'. So the thief went immediately to Paradise when he...

Butch, Seventh-Day Adventists state: 'Since death is a sleep, the dead will remain in a state of unconsciousness in the grave until the resurrection, when the grave (hades) gives up its dead (Rev. 20:13)' (Seventh-Day Adventists Believe - Death and Resurrection).

Butch, I do wish you would not make generalisations like this. It takes us nowhere. If you have some errors that modern Christianity teaches, which don't you start a new thread and begin to deal with it. 'Modern churches are full of false doctrines' is hyperbole and is not true in the modern...

This is a red herring of a reply. Not once in my post, to which you are referring, did I mention the story of the rich man and Lazarus. But you are off and running with where you want to go (and lots of speculation), so it's a red herring desired to divert attention from the evidence I gave that...

Here is a source for Christadelphian history and doctrine. Many of their doctrines are parallel with the JWs. There is quite a group of them in my suburb of Brisbane and they operate a retirement village not far from where I live.

James 1:26-27 (ESV) refutes this view: 'If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless. 27 Religion that is pure and undefiled before God, the Father, is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to...

I do not believe in Hades as anything other than the grave, where, for lack of a better explanation, the dead sleep... The Barrd, We know that hades cannot mean the grave because in the Greek NT, the word, mneema, refers to the grave or tomb. The arguments that affirm that the OT Sheol...