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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Just tell me how you understand those passages. I can't read your mind. Show me how you can reconcile them with your Premillennialist belief. What they clearly indicate is that all unbelievers will be killed when Jesus returns. So, why don't you believe that?
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Help me to understand what you're trying to say here. Are you saying that you believe what is described in Matthew 24:29 in relation to the sun, moon and stars is equivalent to what is described in Matthew 24:15-21? Isn't it your view that "the tribulation of those days" refers to what is...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    You deny that Satan is an individual spirit being who exists apart from human beings who was literally tempting Jesus in the wilderness and you think anyone should listen to anything you say? Think again! Selah!
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    Spiritual discernment requires discerning the difference between spiritual and physical things and between literal and figurative things in scripture. You are clearly lacking in spiritual discernment. You interpret almost everything in a spiritual or figurative sense. Which leads you to deny the...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    It shows how we should understand Daniel 9:24. It's not a diversion at all. You need to learn how to interpret scripture with scripture. Are you not aware that Jews have been having their blinders removed since Paul's day? Why do you apply that only to the future? Read the following. This is...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    That matches up with 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-12. He tries to say that the day of the Lord leads up to the final day of the Lord, but I don't see these passages as referring to "the final day of the Lord". It's the last days that lead up to the day of the Lord, as passages like...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Why do you ask silly questions like this? What purpose does it serve? You know he doesn't believe that. Are you saying that you believe that all people are possessed by demons from birth? If so, what scripture do you think teaches this? He understands that quite well. How do these false...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    You didn't really answer my question, so I'll try again. Do you believe that there is any prophecy, or any part of any prophecy, in the Old Testament that is not yet fulfilled? I think your answer is yes because the Old Testament prophesies of the last days which we are still in today. Is that...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

    How can any future physical temple be the temple of God when the temple of God is always one that God ordains and that He dwells in?
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    You don't think that Revelation 10:5-7 mentions a trumpet? Is refers to the seventh trumpet. Please try to read what people are saying more carefully.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    It's not complicated at all. The person who created this thread is making it very complicated for no good reason. And you also make it more complicated than it is.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    No one has said that He did. So, why did you feel the need to say that? Exactly. No one has said otherwise. The way He left was visibly and physically. He will not return literally on a white horse. But, even if He did, that would not contradict what is written in Acts 1:11. If He returned on...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    He is not denying that the time period that you refer to as "the day of the Lord" has not yet come. Do you understand that? He is like me in that he does not call that time period "the day of the Lord" like you do, but rather he, like me, calls it "the last days". He sees the day of the Lord as...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    I agree completely. And, this is why the foundation of our doctrine should not be on those difficult to discern Old Testament prophecies that are not written in a clear, straightforward manner. Yet, those prophecies are the primary foundation of Premil doctrine. Amil doctrine, in contrast, is...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Are you saying that you don't believe there's any prophecy in the Old Testament that is unfulfilled? Note that I'm asking for clarification because of what you said here and not trying to make a statement about what you believe.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Can you tell me how you interpret the following passages... 1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Would you agree that Satan is a spirit being? If so, do you think he is always possessing someone at all times? You have claimed that spirits can't exist outside of a physical host. What physical host was Satan possessing when he was tempting Jesus in the desert for 40 days and nights?
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    He's not understanding the implications of his claims. He is making a blanket statement that spirits can only exist within physical hosts. He posted scripture showing that angels are ministering spirits. So, the implication of his claim that spirits can only exist withing physical hosts would...