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Stating the clear fact that the Catholic Churches people attended charged $$$ for "Indulgences" isn't lying. However, claiming that it was only the Cardinals, Archbishops, Bishops, Priests and a dozen other officials operating and running the local churches that charged the congregants, and...

Thanks for clearing that up. I obviously misunderstood.

You added some facts I probably should have included in my post, but what are you saying? I happen to believe the way the notations in the Geneva Bible put it is correct. God's word is not telling us that Monarchs rule the church. You seem to be agreeing with King James... that the king or...

The more likely, reasonable, and common sense answers to the timing of festivals and celebrations is to look at how those dates related to the work schedule of agrarian societies. Would festivals be scheduled to coincide with planting or harvesting seasons when it was imperative that most of...

Here you can listen to it, and shut it off if you get scared. :eek:

And if it did happen to be Sept. 11th, this changes anything... how?

Thank you. The book I am now reading also speaks along those same lines. In fact, I just learned that it seems James-1 hated the Geneva Bible, thus in 1604 he ordered his own version produced, the KJV, (finished in 1611) and then in 1616 he finally had the Geneva Bible banned from being...

Look at nothing more than Luke 14:26 where (It appears) Jesus is telling us to hate our entire families. If that was all we "dared" to look at, we would completely misunderstand what Jesus was saying.

The Apocalypse of Abraham opened my eyes to a lot of things about him, his life, and his family that most of us usually just hope that some wise Sunday School teacher or Group Leader will tell us. (And where do you think THEY learned about some of those things they know that we don't?)

I had no idea how little Luther actually affected the "development" of Protestantism. This book passed him in the dust after only a few chapters. There was so much more to it, that it staggers my imagination.... wars, police actions, revolts, migrations, political deals, political marriages...

No, you explicitly said it was the Pharisees and scribes He was addressing. (which He WAS... earlier) And, I said it was now a different group He addressed at this time. If you think claiming an "a" and a "b" make that distinction, you may need to work on it a little.

You might want to do a little more study on that. I believe you will find you have that backward. (The word "Authorized" in the title of the KJV did not mean "Authorized by God.")

Negative. Read on a little farther, and you will find Jesus was addressing "the Jews who believed Him." (I looked up that very point yesterday.) The Bible describes them no further.

Let's be honest, it just happened to be the democrats who got caught this time. Our party might be next.

Gosh, am I the only perfect person here? :p

But, how do you REALLY feel?

I don't know about the whole race, but we in America are very certainly on a direct course to Civil War. Probably within the next decade.

My bad. I guess I should have said "the forward and the Introduction" (about 20 pages, or so) the two are about the same to me in a book. The Intro is where EGW was doing the selling of herself and her ideas. Not exactly my thing. I'll still give it a look since I went to the trouble to...

No particular threats that I know of, but they will do the usual burning and looting and threatening & harassing of political people's families.

Is there ANYTHING about these past three weeks you will forget?