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While I think many of you are a little (extremely) overly fixated on the demise we are creating for this particular nation as being somehow, "the end-times", I do think that if we don't get our heads out of the sand — and VERY soon — there is not much of a future left for the United States as we...

Since we do that same thing every week, and JW's only do it once a year, it would be a little strange to me.

Hello, Sean.

I don't know if the end of the USA is near, but beyond the shadow of a doubt, She is on her deathbed.

Evangelicals and Catholics Together

It also doesn't mean we are too thrilled with certain individuals within those groups.

Sorry 'bout that. Christianity's Dangerous Idea: The Protestant Revolution — A History from the Sixteenth Century to the Twenty-First Written by: Alister E. McGrath

You are a sad little man, trying so hard to rationalize a religion you worship as a god.

No.

Actually all these comments haven't been about "denouncing" the selling of ANY spiritual expectation to suckers. I think it is agreed by all here that such stuff is bogus con crap. I am, and have been, saying that the Catholic Church allowed that mess to go on back then, just as we Protestants...

You can keep on claiming that sad excuse "The priests and church officials are the ones who actually did it, not "the Church", itself." all you want.... but that doesn't change the truth of what we both know was an ongoing practice, for years, of fleecing the people.

BOL is close to impossible to reason with. The Catholic churches established in many towns took $$$ in return for promised "indulgences." Period. You can make all the claims of "abuse" that you want to, but it boils down to this simple fact.... that even he agrees with: Parishioners all over...

A few more words on "the Canon.": The rise of Protestantism forced reconsideration of what had up to that point been a relatively unproblematic question: what specific texts does the phrase “the Bible” denote? At a fairly early stage in its history, the Christian church had to make some...

……. but then my mother gave birth.

Vineyard Fellowship Downloadable copy of SOF & Values is online. Core Values & Beliefs | Vineyard USA (8.08 mb)

You don't seem to see that your very life is a lie.

This from the man who prides himself on insulting everyone here by carefully inching around the edges of all the rules. Quite like the Pharisees used to pride themselves on their disobedience.

Want to have some fun? The Ethiopic Bible contains 81 books in its Old Testament, while the Orthodox Bible has 51 books, compared to the Protestant Bible, (such as the King James), which has 39 books. The Catholic Bible contains 46 books. Add 27 books of the New Testament to each for the total...

Why do the only books one reads have to be "scriptural?" We would not have very much of an idea of the geography of the Holy Land if we did not get it from non-biblical sources. Nor would we have any understanding of various customs and traditions if we relied on only biblical books to give us...

It's not?