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LOL You're laying a requirement on the text that doesn't exist. Jesus tells Nicodemus he has to be born again. Nicodemus thinks he has to get back inside his mother's womb. Jesus corrects him : "born spiritually" Jesus clarifies : "flesh gives birth to flesh, spirit gives birth to spirit".

1. If "water" really does refer to "Word", which it could, how would it be "redundant" when these are two different things? LOL 2. If "water and Spirit" is just "the Spirit", like "Spirit and fire", would "Spirit and fire" not also be "meaningless and redundant"? 3. Still, of all the...

"It is impossible for God to lie." LOL

When you are born of the Word (as Peter teaches we are "born of the Word"), you are born of the Spirit (as John teaches "born of... the Spirit")--there are not two different new births but one and yet we are taught we a born of the Word AND born of the Spirit (knowing the Two are distinct).

1. So, you agree we're born of the Word, and you agree we're born of the Spirit... and yet you wouldn't say these are two different "new births" but one and the same "new birth". 2. It's not any more redundant than saying Jesus baptizes in "Spirit and fire". 3. As I noted earlier, I'm open to...

1. What it should "seem" I'm saying is simply what Scripture says : failure to walk by faith results in a compromise of your standing before God (justification is the opposite of condemnation) Romans 14:23. 2. It is foolish to assume the saved always choose to walk in good works--read 1...

I try not to anymore... but I don't think it's completely out of the realm of possibility the way things are going. LOL

I'm not forgetting, I'm following 1 Corinthians 10--all of those things apply to us.

@Ferris Bueller Please respond to this.

LOL I may get there soon.

Are you also user @Eternally Grateful ?

I absolutely believe it is God Who works. I don't deny that. We are in Christ and Christ is in us--Christ works. That's half of the truth. The other half is that you have to work. You also deny "co-laborers with God"? "My Father works until now and I work"? It's good that you believe part of the...

1. "My Word is Spirit" : they are distinct yet inseparable. 2. Clarify because this makes no sense.

It's not about "liking" anything, it's nonsense.

@Ferris Bueller Which of the following are you prepared to deny: 1. We are born of the Word of God 1 Peter 1:23 for you have been born again not of seed which is perishable, but imperishable, that is, through the living and enduring word of God. 2. We are born of the Spirit John 3:5 ...unless...

The word and the Spirit birth flesh? I never said that.

It's not a "revelation" from God, period. That's my view. There's nothing left to say about it unless you want to make a thread about it for others to discuss it with you.

No, you've got to be pretending to "have trouble understanding". It's really simple. The Word of God, Jesus, is separate from the Spirit, yet the two are bound. "The Words I speak are Spirit".

Word and Spirit. No problem. Scripture attests to it. "born of incorruptible Seed... Word of God". "born of... Spirit".

Right, well, you've expressed your view, and I've expressed my rejection of it as a "revelation", so we've taken that as far as it is going to go it seems.