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Correct. With that, even the Catholic opponents (they oppose Scripture, that is) would agree--it's not in contention. Right--Christ. We don't know that he saw the bride, he only says he heard the voice of the bridegroom--and following the Adamic typing, it is likely there would not have been...

This is my thread, but not my forum, but go ahead (briefly please).

When I'm at dialysis, the hours fly by like minutes. It's amazing. So much fun. Nothing better to do with your life.

@James the Rabbit had the following important objection "I accept that the Church is the New Eve--but Mary is also a part of the Church, so she could qualify as 'New Eve' as well." The answer is as follows (for anyone who missed it) : Mary was not a part of the Church (sharing in Christ's death...

When I see stuff like this, I just think, "Well, yeah, it had to happen. This is the ride we're on. Christ is returning. These things had to happen to push us closer and closer to Him."

You have nothing to add to this discussion.

What I mean is you don't have the most basic principles down--God's condemnation of homosexuality is literally not even the Gospel. It precedes the Gospel. This discussion we're having is far far beyond that. I am not going to get involved in a discussion where you are way in over your head...

Not in this discussion you don't.

OK You're about to get put on block.

Um, dude, you were just arguing against God's condemnation of homosexuality yesterday--you're not qualified to engage in this discussion.

Sorry, weren't you literally just arguing against God's condemnation on homosexuality yesterday ? Who are you to speak on this?

I stood on Scripture, your side failed to produce a reason for rejecting God. Well, stop namecalling. Self-control is a fruit of the Spirit--control yourself so that the mods don't have to. You're no threat to me.

To quote from an imperfect source to appeal to unbelievers (as a means of outreach--the way Paul did on Mars Hill) is different than teaching doctrine to believers--when you teach doctrine to believers you have to be citing authoritative sources.

Read Ephesians 5.

Mary wasn't in the Church at the time you're referring to (the Church didn't exist), so, no, this doesn't work.

Well, to me, you're in denial, so we'll just have to leave it up to the readers to decide.

I honestly couldn't care less--it's a bunch of gobbledygook and it's just scary anyone could believe it and it's a warning to me about hard-heartedness and the power of sin to deceive Hebrews 3:12-13.

Yeah satan constructed them. Could it have been a plant by some human entity? Possibly?

They are irascible, unthinking, only feeling.

They turn their brains off. Anyone who takes a look at Dt 28 can see the folly of their position. It says "no one will buy you" but the whole premise is "we were slaves for 400 years" lol It goes on and on. They just follow emotions. "Scripture says you'll be sent back to Egypt." "America is...