Mary as New Eve

[James the Rabbit]

Mary is not the New Eve, the Church is.

Show me any of three empty traditions you espouse here in Scripture.

Perhaps by that same logic, Christ isn't the only "New Adam" since the Pope's are all supposedly in His stead--maybe there're many dozens of "New Adam"s.

You'd believe any imagination to save your baseless doctrine but you won't believe God's Word because it militates against your empty traditions.

Mary is not part of the church?

 

[GracePeace]

We are all the Bride of Christ. Mary is the first Christian and, therefore, like us, represents the Church. Her obedience and humility is an example to us, as is, her current perfection, which we will hopefully experience in Heaven. In a way, as the bride of Christ, we can be seen as a new Eve.

But, Mary is the first, and an example for us all.

By the way, this is an admission that you see the Scripture based logic in the Church as New Eve correct?

How many times is that taught by your Church?

 

[GracePeace]

Mary is not part of the church?

I guess every woman in the Church is New Eve then? That means Mary isn't special.

 

[James the Rabbit]

Every women who crushed the head of the serpent, I suppose.

 

[GracePeace]

Every women who crushed the head of the serpent, I suppose.

God crushes the head of the serpent Romans 16:20. You're not supposed to worship Mary as a god.

 

[GracePeace]

Every women who crushed the head of the serpent, I suppose.

So, again, you're being honest and agreeing the Church is New Eve correct? You're just trying to find a way that Mary still fits?

 

[James the Rabbit]

God crushes the head of the serpent. You're not supposed to worship Mary as a god.

Yes. Jesus is the seed of the women in Genesis 3:15.

 

[GracePeace]

Yes. Jesus is the seed of the women in Genesis 3:15.

So, again, you're being honest and agreeing the Church is New Eve correct? You're just trying to find a way that Mary still fits?

 

[James the Rabbit]

So again you agree the Church is New Eve correct? You're just trying to find a way that Mary still fits?

I am saying that Mary is an important figure within the church. We are all the Bride of Christ and can be seen as a new Eve. I believe I was fairly clear about this before.

why is this so important to you? You sound like you might be trying to discount Catholicism for some reason?

 

[GracePeace]

I am saying that Mary is an important figure within the church. We are all the Bride of Christ and can be seen as a new Eve. I believe I was fairly clear about this before.

why is this so important to you? You sound like you might be trying to discount Catholicism for some reason?

When were you "quite clear"? Please share a link.

Why am I interested in truth? Man I never thought of that, I should just enjoy being lied to! Problem solved! End of thread! God's Word shouldn't be taken seriously! What was I thinking!?

 

[GracePeace]

why is this so important to you? You sound like you might be trying to discount Catholicism for some reason?

I believe in salvation by faith and works so let's not go there.

 

[James the Rabbit]

Ok I am done here. Have a nice day and God bless you.

 

[GracePeace]

Ok I am done here. Have a nice day and God bless you.

Thanks!

 

[GracePeace]

I am saying that Mary is an important figure within the church.

Sure, but New Eve she is NOT.

We are all the Bride of Christ and can be seen as a new Eve.

Good for you that you're capable of honesty unlike some Church "authorities" who are in denial.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Mary is not the New Eve, the Church is.

Show me any of three empty traditions you espouse here in Scripture.

Perhaps by that same logic, Christ isn't the only "New Adam" since the Pope's are all supposedly in His stead--maybe there're many dozens of "New Adam"s.

You'd believe any baselesss
ad hoc arbitrary imagination to save your erroneous tradition, but you won't believe God's Word because it militates against your empty tradition.

And for all of your whining and complaining - I destroyed your arguments in posts #36, 43, 46, 54, 68, 70, 79, 82, 100 and so on.
EACH of those posts sinks the different arguments you're presented.

All YOU'VE done is issue denial after denial, accuse me of non-existent "name-calling" and run to the Mods whenever you get stuck stumped.

As I states earlier - perhaps a Debate site os NOT the best place for you so be spending your time if it upsets you so much.

 

[GracePeace]

And for all of your whining and complaining - I destroyed your arguments in posts #36, 43, 46, 54, 68, 70, 79, 82, 100 and so on.
EACH of those posts sinks the different arguments you're presented.

All YOU'VE done is issue denial after denial, accuse me of non-existent "name-calling" and run to the Mods whenever you get stuck stumped.

As I states earlier - perhaps a Debate site os NOT the best place for you so be spending your time if it upsets you so much.

Well, to me, you're in denial, so we'll just have to leave it up to the readers to decide.

 

[Waiting on him]

Jesus is the fulfillment of the "Adam" type (as taught in Romans 5 and elsewhere), so the New Eve must be the Church which is "Christ's body" and "Christ's Bride", just as Eve was Adam's body and bride. Not coincidentally, 2 Corinthians 11:3 explicitly teaches the Church corresponds to Eve.
Ipso facto, Mary is not New Eve. The Roman Catholics have erred.

The church is the body of Christ and the bride of Christ. Are you certain of this?

 

[GracePeace]

I am saying that Mary is an important figure within the church. We are all the Bride of Christ and can be seen as a new Eve. I believe I was fairly clear about this before.

why is this so important to you? You sound like you might be trying to discount Catholicism for some reason?

Mary wasn't in the Church at the time you're referring to (the Church didn't exist), so, no, this doesn't work.

 

[GracePeace]

The church is the body of Christ and the bride of Christ. Are you certain of this?

Read Ephesians 5.

 

[Waiting on him]

And for all of your whining and complaining - I destroyed your arguments in posts #36, 43, 46, 54, 68, 70, 79, 82, 100 and so on.
EACH of those posts sinks the different arguments you're presented.

All YOU'VE done is issue denial after denial, accuse me of non-existent "name-calling" and run to the Mods whenever you get stuck stumped.

As I states earlier - perhaps a Debate site os NOT the best place for you so be spending your time if it upsets you so much.

I wonder what will happen on the day he realizes that Protestants are merely protesting Catholics?