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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    It does line up if only you read what I said more carefully. And, of course no individual scripture can be taken on its own. I never said otherwise. I have made that same point many times myself. When you look at all of God's word you can see that all of God's people from all-time, both Jew and...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    Wrong. Here is a better translation of the passage which more accurately shows what Paul was saying. (NIV) Galatians 6:14 May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.15 Neither circumcision nor...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    LOL. What?! Where are you getting that from? I certainly didn't say that in any way, shape or form. What did Peter say we are looking for in fulfillment of the promise of the second coming of Christ? Israel? No. The new heavens and new earth where only righteousness will dwell. 2 Peter 3:13...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    What is your answer to my question then? Yes or no? I asked: Do you not believe that the souls of the elect dead in Christ will be gathered in heaven when Jesus comes to meet us "in the air"? In other words, when the souls of the dead in Christ come with Jesus do you believe that they will first...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Satan is the devil. Matthew 4:8 Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. 9 And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.” 10 Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    No one said that the beast and false prophet will be thrown into the lake of fire before the second coming of Christ.
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    No, the point Peter was making was in relation to God's wrath that will occur when Jesus comes on the day of the Lord and about the need to avoid it when it comes on the day Jesus returns. Paul referred to that wrath as "sudden destruction" (1 Thessalonians 5:2-3) from which those in spiritual...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    What are you talking about and what does it have to do with what I said in my post? What does any of this have to do with what was being discussed?
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    King Jesus will return at the end of this temporal age and then deliver His kingdom to God the Father

    No, it isn't. You don't even come close to specifically answering my questions most of the time. All you do is ignore them and just share something you believe that doesn't relate specifically to what I said or to a question I asked. This is a complete non-answer. It's a yes or no question. Do...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    Do you think the Israelites like the scribes and Pharisees who Jesus called hypocrites and a brood of vipers are part of the wife of God?
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    What is there to address? None of those scriptures teach separate groups of God's people. All of them teach that all of God's people are one. The city includes "all those who are saved" which are "those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life" (Revelation 21:9-10). What believer from...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    You don't seem to read what others say very carefully, which results in you rarely specifically addressing what was said. I said that the private interpretation that Peter talked about was a private interpretation of the prophets that the prophecy came from their own wills or minds instead of...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    Paul related those scriptures to both Jews and Gentiles. Why? Because what was not revealed in OT times but has been revealed in NT times is that Gentile believers are fellow heirs with Israelite believers of God's promises, as Ephesians 3:1-6 clearly indicates. Do you accept that Gentile...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    Do you not believe that the souls of the elect dead in Christ will be gathered in heaven when Jesus comes to meet us "in the air"? 1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. Who do you think "those who sleep...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 20:1-15 & the 1,000 years (aka Millennium) Bible Study

    Paul writes about the same event in 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and describes the destruction as "sudden". Does that seem like he could be referring to a long period of time? Clearly not. The word sudden means a very short amount of time. So, in no way, shape or form is it reasonable to try to extend...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 20:1-15 & the 1,000 years (aka Millennium) Bible Study

    I'm saying that any specific reference to a future coming of Christ (Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21, 1 Thess 2:19, 1 Thess 3:13, 1 Thess 4:14-5:3, 1 Thess 5:23, 1 Cor 15:22-23, 2 Thess 1:7-10, 2 Thess 2:1, 2 Peter 1:16, 2 Peter 3:10-12, Rev 19:11-21) always refers to His second coming. Why would...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 20:1-15 & the 1,000 years (aka Millennium) Bible Study

    The day of the Lord is the day of the second coming of Christ. Nowhere does scripture teach that the day of the Lord lasts a long time or 1,000 years. Paul clearly taught that the day will bring "sudden destruction" upon unbelievers from which "they shall not escape" (1 Thessalonians 5:2-3). The...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    What are you basing that on? How is that even possible? You just make things up. You continue to talk about the New Jerusalem as if it's a literal city. It's not. I thought you said you understand that it's symbolic? You clearly don't. A literal city cannot be "the bride, the Lamb's wife"...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    LOL. You can't be serious. Does the Bible itself tell us that we need to go to school to learn the Bible? Absolutely not! The Holy Spirit is our teacher! (1 Corinthians 2:9-16). I don't base my doctrine on an individual scripture. But, that is not even what 2 Peter 1:20-21 is about. That...