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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    WHAT????? CHURCH FATHERS WERE PRETRIB ???

    What synonym for "escapists" would you prefer she use instead?
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    WHAT????? CHURCH FATHERS WERE PRETRIB ???

    This is all only your opinions with nothing in scripture to back it up. You can't hope to understand the book of Revelation if you don't recognize that it's not all in chronological order. Revelation 14:14 is one of several parallel verses in Revelation that describe things in relation to the...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

    It is completely biblical and you can't prove otherwise. While I don't believe people literally burn physically in hell and later the lake of fire, it's a fact that people will experience eternal torment in the lake of fire, regardless of what the eternal torment entails. Revelation 14:9 Then a...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    WHAT????? CHURCH FATHERS WERE PRETRIB ???

    No, He did not. That is utter nonsense. And you are completely incapable of supporting that claim, which is why you don't even attempt to do so.
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    WHAT????? CHURCH FATHERS WERE PRETRIB ???

    Partial preterism sees most of the Olivet Discourse and book of Revelation as being fulfilled around 70 AD while historicism sees the Olivet Discourse and Revelation as being filled throughout history over time. So, they are not the same. Saying they are the same is like saying pre-trib...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Overview time line chart of the 7 years

    Right. Nowhere does it say that those who are alive when the last trumpet sounds have to first die before then being resurrected and being bodily changed to put on bodily immortality. I don't know where he's getting that idea from, but it's not from scripture.
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    Whatever. I couldn't care less if that surprises you or not. If you want to debate that topic, there is another forum for that. Yawn. The New Testament (1 Cor 15:50-54, Rev 21:1-4) relates Isaiah 25:8-9 to the future day when the last trumpet sounds, Christ returns, the bodily resurrection of...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    The context of 1 Corinthians 15:50-54 is in relation to the bodily resurrection of the dead and the change of our bodies from mortal to immortal. And Paul references Isaiah 25:8 in relation to 1 Corinthians 15:54. Therefore, I see Isaiah 25:8 as being specifically related to the time when the...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    I am not saying that Isaiah 25:8 specifically references the second coming of Christ. There are no OT scriptures which explicitly refer to His second coming. But, surely, not all OT prophecies are already fulfilled. There are OT prophecies that refer to things like the judgment, the resurrection...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    King Jesus will return at the end of this temporal age and then deliver His kingdom to God the Father

    This isn't surprising. How can any Premil deny that Jesus will come at the end of the age and deny that is when He will deliver the kingdom to God the Father when passages like 1 Corinthians 15:22-24 and Matthew 13:40-43 are so clear about that? Why would they even try? They claim to interpret...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Overview time line chart of the 7 years

    If you are doing nothing but preaching falsehood for 40 years, as you do with your false pretrib dispensationalist beliefs, what good is that? None. You should step aside and let those who actually have spiritual discernment do the preaching on end times doctrine instead of denying the truth...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    So, you meant to say that the olive tree is Christ's and not that the olive tree itself is Christ? I wish you could learn how to communicate more clearly. It takes a lot of effort for us to try to understand what you're saying. Right. He's the root of the olive tree and not the olive tree...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    I don't recall you writing that to me. I don't read all of your posts that you make to others. OT saints will not receive a different inheritance than NT saints. You are mistaken. Hebrews 11:39 39 And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise, 40...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    You specifically address very few of our points and ignore most of them. No, Christ is the root of the olive tree whose natural branches represent Israelites with wild olive tree branches from the wild olive tree, representing Gentile believers, grafted into it as well. Any of the natural...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Why do you try to say that Christ Himself is the olive tree as if He is the entire olive tree? No, He is the root of the olive tree with Jew and Gentile believers being the branches of the olive tree. The branches are part of the tree, so it makes no sense to act as if Christ Himself is the...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    WHAT????? CHURCH FATHERS WERE PRETRIB ???

    When do you plan on ever actually doing that? LOL. You are describing yourself exactly. You have no self awareness. Your arguments are always full of gibberish and incoherent.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    Of course. Did you think I said otherwise? I certainly did not. Do you have any thoughts about my original post of this thread? Would you agree with me that Paul referencing the fulfillment of Isaiah 25:8 in 1 Corinthians 15:54 and John referencing the fulfillment of Isaiah 25:8 in Revelation...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Do you think that Jesus only died for Gentiles? What more does He need to do for Israelites than die for their sins? Do you think there has not been any Israelites saved in the past almost 2,000 years? There certainly has been. But, you act as if God has postponed salvation for them. No, He has...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    It's rude to point out how you often don't bother to specifically address our points? I think it's rude that you don't bother addressing our points.
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Exactly! And the wild branches of the wild olive tree, representing Gentile believers, are grafted in with them, which makes Gentile believers part of the Israeli tree as well. Being a physical descendant of the nation of Israel is not the requirement for being part of the Israeli tree. Faith is...