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Same here. So, it's a good thing I believe it. I would not accuse you of not believing it, but you just like to be rude like that for no reason. LOL. You talk as if the entire Bible is literal text. You know it's not. So, yes, sometimes, we have to discern whether the text is literal, symbolic...

Jesus is also called the Son of God. Using your logic, He can't be both the everlasting Father and the Son of God at the same time. But, He is. Why do you always only use fallible human logic to understand spiritual things? I can't make any sense of what you said here. First, you said...

Yes, but do you have no interest in taking a closer look at the text to make sure it's telling us what you think it's telling us? What is your explanation for the tribes listed in Revelation 7 being different than the tribes listed in the Old Testament? As covenantee pointed out, Revelation 7...

Excellent post. Very well done. Many don't notice that the tribes listed in Revelation don't all match the tribes of Israel listed in the Old Testament. That can't be ignored. There is a reason for that, which you explained very well. And, as you pointed out, even the order of the tribes is...

I would say that the title of the thread should have given some indication that it relates to the Amil vs. Premil debate, but it doesn't. But, what he said in the original posts and all of his subsequent posts has nothing to do with the Amil vs. Premil debate. He just decided that this 7th day...

No, scripture itself refers to an Israel that is spiritual in nature in contrast to the physical nation of Israel. You are just missing the true interpretation of those scriptures and you think people are reinterpreting them. No. Romans 9:6-8 clearly contrasts two different Israels and Paul...

Can you explain exactly what your understanding is of who those verses are referring to and what your understanding is of the great tribulation that they came out of and how they came out of it? Also, when do you see them as coming out of great tribulation (what time period)?

The body of Christ consists of the souls of the dead in Christ and those who are alive and remain when He comes. All of the body of Christ will be gathered to Christ in the air at His coming. What you're saying contradicts what Paul taught here... 1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that...

You obviously didn't read the original post of the thread. Read that and then you'll know what I'm talking about.

He obviously does not have the gift of teaching. He has no interest in helping anyone understand how he comes to his conclusions. He apparently doesn't think it's worth his time to help clarify exactly how he is concluding that Adam's age has anything to do with Revelation 20.

The first of who knows how many. Why can't you just explain how you come to your conclusions without having to ask me any questions? He delighted in telling them the truth. If you can't just tell me how you come to your conclusions then I'm not interested. There's no need for you to ask me...

So, you don't think you can relate to the wise virgins in the Matthew 25:1-13 who are ready for their bridegroom to come? The bride of Christ is the church, as Paul made very clear. If you want to deny that, that's your choice, but it really could not be more clear than Paul made it in Ephesians...

That means nothing. There are 7 days in a week, not 8. And what does any of this have to do with the Amil vs. Premil debate? Nothing.

I'm not going to answer a bunch of questions like this. I don't like wasting time. Just tell me where you see a connection in scripture between Adam's age and the time period of the thousand years of Revelation 20. If you're not interested in clarifying how you come to your conclusions, then...

Where is that indicated in the parable in Matthew 25:1-13? So, you think that the parable is talking about the bridegroom, Jesus, coming for the new covenant and then the new covenant goes in with Him to the wedding banquet? Matthew 25:10 “But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the...

LOL. I did not deny that Adam lived 930 years and you know it. Why are you being so dishonest here? I'm obviously not denying how long Adam lived, but rather am denying that scripture ever makes the same connection you're making between Adam's age and the thousand years of Revelation 20. Where...

What about it exactly? I don't know what you were asking when you asked "Why not?". Can you clarify what exactly you are asking? If not, don't worry about it.

I'm neither. So, instead of making ridiculous and useless comments like that, how about you show me the scripture which shows a connection between the thousand years of Revelation 20 and Genesis 5. Do you have any scripture which shows that connection? I don't believe so.

Why not what? Explain what you are asking in relation to what I said.

Don't try to speak for Jeff. He believes that God has the perfect and eternal new heavens and new earth planned for those who love Him. Why do you act as if just because someone is not a Premil like you that they are not looking forward to what God has planned for us?