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again, I go with the flow of the passage. from the command to restore until messiah is 69 weeks Messiah was introduced on a donkey as the scripture prophesied Zechariah 9:9 “Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout, O daughter of Jerusalem! Behold, your King is coming to you; He is just...

Yes, This is done as an act of God the moment we trust him. No water is involved.. I was baptized INTO CHRIST, Not into water. Yes, because we repented. and received the gift of the spirit. On the basis of this gift, and our remission of sin, we are baptized in water..

please note. I had to delete some of your verses to get this below 10000 words.. Thank you for responding and this discussion. I look forward to your response Or are these warnings given to those who have not been saved yet? Does God contradict himself? I have yet to find one. Ah, but here...

agree 100% How? I do not agree here, in fact it is impossible But he is not Christ, and sacrifice and burnt offering ceases BECAUSE of the abomination of desolation. And the text clearly says Christ was "cut off" at the end of the 69th week. not in the middle of the 70th week. Well we know it...

ok lets look at this. I agree the guarantee is only for the real believer. Not the make believers (those who claim to be of faith but are decieved) Or could it be said Gods promise are only to those who truly believe, for they WILL remain.. when you write it as you did, you make it appear...

do you know how to keep on subject? You made a statement (I do not need to read) I made a comment (when anyone gets to this point, they are in danger) what does your point in this post have to do with that discussion? Your deflecting.. That is what it is called.. If you want to discuss your...

She made a statement, I am asking her to clarify what she means.

Well this would not be saying they are cut off (lost salvation) He is saying according to the gsospel they espouse. they may fail to become saved. Bug difference Anyone who teaches a different gospel is to be accursed,. I am still up in the air if calvinists teach a different gospel or not

No, What I have said, and it is in the text. Peter told everyone to repent (2nd person plural) and they would recieve the gift of the spirit And then he told them, let everyone of you (who repented) be baptized for (on account of) remission of sin The origional KJV had it closer. It said...

No, Try reading Jesus words. THIS IS THE WORK OF GOD. Its not their work. it is the work of God that they believe. Jesus told them in reality. there are no works you can do.. But they could not hear this, because they believed as you. they had to earn salvation by works.

They could not do this, Because it is proven in scripture itself. Matt 12: 41 41 The men of Nineveh will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, because they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and indeed a greater than Jonah is here. The people did not get the preaching...

sorry, But your post 31 in no way answers my comment. But go your own way..

wow what a deflect. I never even mentioned you being born again or not born again. I just stated your pride runs deep if you think you no longer have to study the word. But anyway, Thanks for the show today,. I really enjoyed it

Amen, they interpret the word to fit their belief, instead of forcing their belief to agree with the word.

To be honest, I stopped trying to worry about your opinion awhile ago. Facts are fact. when we think we are so perfect in our faith we do not need to study to show ourselves approved. We are in serious need of a take down. because our pride needs to be broken

YES! For we have been saved by grace through faith.

when we come to this point in our life. we are unteachable. and are in serious danger.

so your saying the spirit can be lost once he seals us? Want to understand

Amen the word, which by the way, endures forever. That same word is the means by which the HS is given (eph 1: 13 - 14) But only through faith.. Not before.. Amen

You beat me too it, I was going to say the same thing..