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And I would add... KJV 1 Timothy 4:1-3 1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 Forbidding to marry...

All the musings and questions aside from the rest of your post, I will take this... ... On face value, and go from there. My question, why did Jesus teach pacifism, turning the other cheek etc? In Hebrews, Paul says KJV Hebrews 1:1-3 1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in...

Why did they do you think?

I'm going to think about this some more before I reply. Hopefully I don't forget.

My mind is going skew wiff right now. I'm not going to criticize you. Your patience is astonishing. And you are right. It's great to theorize but when the rubber meets the road... Will the wheels fall off???

Well well well. We learn something every day. Who woulda thunk. I'll never look at a pair of red slippers the same again.

Oh dear. Where to begin. Evidence of pagan Rome in the church? One could throw a rock at random in the general direction of Italy and hit the jackpot. And then discover that Protestantism inherited it and defend and cleave to it using every possible tactic imaginable to justify their position...

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I think it's great, and important, that these questions are being asked. I am a pacifist by nature. I have never, ever been a fighter as such. I'm 68 years old and have punched just two people in my life... One in defense of my wife. I simply do not get into situations, or exacerbate situations...

@Amazed@grace what I see here is someone justifying a representation of the Godhead in direct contradiction to the second Commandment. And I must admit that I had never seen it that way until @ReChoired brought it to our attention. I think that instead of attacking him for doing so, should we...

So I'm beginning to seriously wonder why you are so opposed to the gospel being preached? You said yourself tat the definition of harassment includes returning "without a purpose". Reading @ReChoired posts throughout the forum here tells me that his posts are all Christ centered, Biblically...

It was the fall of the empire that gave rise to Catholicism. If pagan Rome protected anything, it was apostasy. "And the dragon (pagan Rome) that gave the beast (Papal Rome) its throne, its power and authority". Revelation 13. Christianity had spread to throughout the empire it is true, well...

@Grailhunter not only do you have a grave misapprehension of God's character with regards His so called violent behavior, you also are now proposing that He is willing to transgress His own principles in order to advance His church.

No, only in Rome and immediate areas. Christianity was thriving without Rome in either of it's forms, and in places neither could reach. Christ brought His own church into apostasy and spiritual adultery in order to survive? That's the best He could do? You forget that it was the persecutions...

I think the violence and non pacifism of medieval Christianity raises more, and sadly has a great deal more impact on modem day Christians who misrepresent the character of God.

KJV Matthew 26:52-53 52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. 53 Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?

It wasn't a compliment."shall we call upon God to rain fire down and destroy them"?. Said Jesus, "you do not know of what spirit you are".

The name"God" is certainly interwoven throughout American society. But I suggest it is no more genuinely a part of the personal lives of Americans today than He was for those in Israel during the reign of Ahab. There are today numerous competing gods vying for attention, and from what I observe...

I knew there was a good substantive reason I liked you. An honest man with an unbiased view of reality. And yet despite all the flaws and all the wickedness that emanated from within this "experiment", God used it for His purposes. Bringing His people from a continent of darkness and...

I don't doubt for a moment that's what you believe. But so does everyone else on this forum, including me. And I doubt very much if there's more than two people who agree completely on any set of five principle doctrines. And I would suggest that none of us could sit down and write a thesis on...