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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    You completely missed the point. I mean, you missed it 100%. What my main point was in that post was to show that the kingdom that Christ will deliver to the Father at the end, regardless of when you think the end will come, is the same kingdom once it is delivered to God the Father, which is...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    If you read the original post, it should be clear that what I primarily wanted to discuss is that scripture teaches that mortals will not inherit the kingdom of God at the last trumpet when Jesus returns. Whatever. Please stop wasting time making useless comments like that and discuss your...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    I hope I don't offend you by "cutting in" here, but since he sometimes never responds to some posts, I thought I'd let you know that, yes, his argument is that Matthew 25:31-46 does not include all people, as you and I believe, but rather just those who have actually, literally professed faith...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Of course I don't. But, this is a public forum, so anyone can "cut in" on any exchange at any time and it should not be a problem. If you don't want anyone to "cut in" on a discussion you're having, then take it private. I recall otherwise. Here is one statement you have made to me... You...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    I don't find this argument to be convincing at all. It was not unusual at all for Jesus to basically repeat Himself sometimes whenever He wanted to put a particular emphasis on something to make sure that what He was saying wasn't missed. Matthew 23: And so upon you will come all the righteous...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Babylon

    I don't. So, guess what, buddy? I'm not going to waste any more time talking to someone who doesn't care at all about what I have to say. You can keep babbling while pretending as if I care about what you think if you want, but I'm not going to waste any more time on you.
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Figures you'd say that. The point is that it's worthwhile considering what He meant by that. It doesn't seem like you care to even think about that very much. So, those things don't qualify as being among the things that would indicate His coming is "near, even at the doors". Those things are...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Babylon

    Is that supposed to mean anything to me? No matter how many people believe something that is false, it's still false. And, if you actually paid any attention to what the earliest Chiliasts (before Victorinus in 270 AD) believed, you would know that their overall view had just as much or more in...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    I'll tell you what's absurd. The idea that human beings would be expected to separate other human beings from each other rather than the angels doing that. That's not the job of humans, it's the job of angels. It's absurd to think otherwise. Matthew 13:30 He said unto them, An enemy hath done...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    No, you do not get it. At all. That is not true. Where does it say that? Nowhere. I addressed the reason why even the goats called Him "Lord". Why do you just ignore that without addressing it? Do you deny that literally all people will one day bow before Christ and confess that He is Lord? Do...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    @Davidpt I see that you liked this post. But, he is failing to consider that the tares are described as the children of the devil (Matthew 13:38). Other scripture describes all sinners as children of the devil (1 John 3:8-10). Satan is bound in real time, not in eternity. Regardless of one's...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Babylon

    And your opinion means less than nothing to me and I'm 100% certain that MANY others here feel the same. You are a laughingstock of the forum. That's 200 years of ridiculous nonsense that you have fallen for. Scholars? LOL. You mean idiots who twist scripture beyond recognition. I can't...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    That's what I've been trying to tell him, but he doesn't think that's a valid argument. But, I think it most certainly is a valid argument because it goes without saying that if the city is destroyed and desolated then that would include the temple buildings located within the city.
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    How is your view any different in terms of supposedly being redundant? Do you not also think He was saying "the generation that sees all these things will not pass away until all these things take place”? That isn't what we are disagreeing about. We are disagreeing about when that generation...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Babylon

    They were actual first century churches in the Roman province of Asia. That's it. To turn them into anything else is a blatant case of twisting scripture. What's really dumb is wasting time making strawman arguments like you're doing here. They are not separated as if they are all mixed...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Babylon

    Only someone who twists scripture would try to invent a third group being present at the judgment besides those represented by the sheep and the goats. The least of these of Christ's brethren are among the sheep. The sheep represent His people (see John 10) and His brethren are those who obey...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Babylon

    Says the guy who twists the first century church in the ancient city of Laodicea into representing "the last church era". That's some serious twisting.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    I am very confused about what he believes because the word "immortal" means this: immortal (adjective): living forever; never dying or decaying. If someone is immortal then they can never die. Yet, he has the bodies and souls of immortals being destroyed in the lake of fire. How can immortals...