Search results

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    I did say that what I was describing did not apply to all Premills, but, naturally, you guys would ignore that. Do you have people with mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom described in Matthew 25:34? If so, that is the view that I'm intending to address in this thread.
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    I don't keep going on about the thing that didn't bother me that you thought bothered me. But, naturally, you don't care if you misrepresent what I was saying. Let me answer the question instead of you answering it for me. The point was that those bad Calvinists, with which you agree, say that...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    I guess I'm silly then because the word "immortal" means that someone cannot die. This supposed "conditional immortality" that Adam and Eve had is something that you made up and is not taught in scripture. The only way you could say that they had "conditional immortality" is if it was actually...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    They clearly are gathered before the throne at the same time. Agree? With that being the case, why would they not be separated to His right and left hands immediately at that time? There is nothing to suggest that there is any kind of significant delay between the judgment of the sheep and the...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    They will not ever sin again because not only will they be immortal, but also incorruptible (1 Cor 15:50-54). You can't sin if you are incorruptible. But, we will not be able to say that we never sinned as we can say about Christ. Not at that point any longer know. By having faith in Christ in...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    When something is decaying it means has died. When something is immortal it can't die and decay. When a person's body dies it starts to decay. When you have a mortal body it means that it will die and decay. In contrast to an immortal body that cannot die or decay.
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Dude, your reading comprehension skills are not good. I explained what does bother me and what doesn't, so there's nothing to drop in relation to what doesn't bother me. Good grief. Dude, you are so incredibly dishonest. You called my soteriology "Arminian soteriology". Denial isn't just a...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    You're not addressing the point. In Matthew 23:36, Jesus is referring back to what he said in verse 35, right? So, in verse 36, "all these things" refer to "all the righteous blood shed upon the earth" and "this generation" refers to the people He was talking about in verse 35 which were the...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. For them to be immortal would mean that they could not sin and could not die. Yet, they did sin and did die. Is there some definition of the word "immortal" that I'm not aware of that you are using?
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    But, the other scriptures he referenced all talk about all unbelievers being destroyed when Christ returns. So, you should then realize that He will return AFTER His millennial reign. He began to reign after His resurrection. He said after that "all power is given to me in heaven and earth"...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    That does not bother me. But, saying that I have an Arminian theology comes across as if you're saying I'm an Armininan. I don't know how you can deny that. How can a non-Arminian hold to "Arminian soteriology"? When you made the comment you did not say it in the sense that I only agree with...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Yes, because the word "immortal" means that you can't die. Yet, they did die. So, they were not immortal. So, I guess you do not agree with the definition of the word "immortal" found in English dictionaries? Webster's defines it as "exempt from death". Oxford defines it as "living forever...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    That, in and of itself, isn't a problem. Go and read my original post again if you want to know the problem I have with what some Premills believe. If you have any mortal flesh and blood people inheriting the kingdom of God at the last trumpet when Jesus returns, then that is a problem because...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    I don't think so. You have defended yourself about that before in multiple threads and they were not closed because of it. You are apparently not aware that this forum is not closely moderated.
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Do you agree that the kingdom Christ hands over to the Father does not become some other kingdom after that? As it is now, the kingdom of God shares space with the kingdom of Satan on the earth. When Jesus hands it over to God the Father, then it will no longer share space with the kingdom of...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Yes, of course. But, they are not an indication that the coming change is near. It just indicates that it's continually getting closer. We have had wars, famines, pestilences and earthquakes in various places for a long time now. And His coming has continued to get closer during that time...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    You tried and failed. There was no mistake. If this is all you have to offer is useless comments like this that you can't back up, then you should just move along. It seems that most Premills believe that, yes. But, you have said that you don't believe that. But, not in its fullness apart...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Never. We have referred to him not believing in the deity of Christ many times without those threads being closed because of it.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Yet, earlier, you said Christ's kingdom and the kingdom of God are two completely different kingdoms. Is that not what you were intending to say? I do not. Don't try to speak for me. I think I've told you that before, but you keep trying to do it, anyway.
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Not at all. One is true and one is not. It's true that the word "immortal" means that someone who is immortal can never die. It's not true that Eve would not die. There's no similarity at all between the truth of what the word "immortal" means and the lie that Satan told to Eve. Are you trying...