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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Agree completely. @Zao is life claims that Jesus didn't answer the question about the temple buildings at all. I see no reason at all to believe that. Especially when Luke 21:20-24 clearly matches the description of what happened in 70 AD when the temple buildings were destroyed. So, I don't...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    This proves nothing except that you assume what is described in Revelation 20 chronologically follows what is described in Revelation 19. But, the book of Revelation is not all chronological. The most obvious proof of that is Revelation 11 and 12. Clearly, the birth and ascension of Christ...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Don't talk to me like this. I would never disagree with Paul. Imagine me telling you that you apparently disagree with Paul. Can you not see that comes across as if you think I don't think Paul spoke the truth? I disagree with you and your understanding of Paul. You apparently think that he was...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    You agreed that there will be no more sin when He comes, but disagree that there will be no more death? That makes no sense. No more sin means no more death. Clearly, you do believe there will be more sin after He comes. You believe there will be a lot of sin occurring during a little season...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    No point continuing? Why can't we talk about this AND the other points I made? You expect me to address this while you don't have to address my points? Was the gospel preached in China back then? In all of the nations of Africa? Japan? India? The Americas? Russia? It was preached in literally...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    NOWHERE does Matthew 24:21 say anything about it being a tribulation greater in scope than any other. You are reading that into the text. What the text actually is saying is that it would be UNLIKE any other tribulation while saying NOTHING about the scope of the tribulation. If it was talking...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Not only is wrath described in the Luke 21 passage, but also "great distress". Luke 21:23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. As if "great distress" and "great tribulation"...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    You like to get your little digs in on me constantly. I guess that is what you have decided to do despite me offering an olive branch to you. So be it. Meanwhile, I hear nothing but crickets when I try to get you to actually give an interpretation of Matthew 24:15-21. You act like you have this...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    I agree. The end will come when Jesus comes, which will be at the seventh and last trumpet. That is when death will be swallowed up in victory (1 Cor 15:50-54) and will be destroyed.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    You can't even discern the difference between the deeper things of scripture and the rest. It's the same as the difference between the milk and the solid food that Paul talked about in 1 Corinthians 3:1-2. I'm not talking about simple things that everyone should know like Jesus rising from the...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    LOL! You really need to get over yourself. You arrogance is off the charts! Humble yourself! No one needs to all that nonsense in order to know what Catholicism teaches.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    So, you think Paul didn't know what he was talking about when he said the deeper things of scripture must be spiritually discerned? Why do you think so lowly of Paul? Or is 1 Corinthians 2:9-16 somehow missing from your Bible?
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    LOL! In the context of who Joel was writing to? What does that mean. The text itself says the Spirit of God would be poured out on all people. How do you take that literally? It's not talking about literally all people even though that it what is written. You said yourself you have to look at...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    I cannot accept the idea that Jesus did not answer their question about the temple buildings. You do acknowledge that they asked a question about that, but then you say He didn't answer it. Sorry, I can't make any sense of that. Also, I can't accept that a passage which has a global context...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    It's immediately after He comes down from heaven that the end comes. The end of the world as we know it. The end of the age. The end of rebellion. The end of sin. The end of death. Jesus will put an end to everything that opposes God when He comes and make everything new. Notice that when the...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    This is hard to follow. What exactly are you saying "the end" refers to in 1 Cor 15:24 and when exactly do you think it occurs in relation to the second coming of Christ? It seems that you're saying that "the end" does not come about immediately at the second coming of Christ, but it takes 1000...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    You did a tremendous job here of completely ignoring my point and not addressing it at all. Well done, if that was your goal.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Thank you, I appreciate that. I wonder if covenantee agrees with you about this? sml
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    You're not really addressing my argument, though, which deals with more than just Matthew 24:14 itself. Jesus spoke of global things in Matthew 24:4-14 and not just things related to Jerusalem or Israel. What would have been His point in referring to global events such as wars, earthquakes and...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    The Holy Spirit who inspired him was not unfamiliar with those concepts. How do you know what Peter was familiar with? You don't. Anyone being inspired by the Holy Spirit can potentially become familiar with anything that God is familiar with, which, obviously, is everything. How do you suppose...