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I don't deny that. But, I believe it will be the entire earth surface rather than the entire earth. But, you deny the biblical fact that they will be changed (Hebrews 1:12). The old heaven and earth as we know them will pass away, but they will be changed and made new. Either way, we agree that...

It doesn't say EXCHANGED, it says CHANGED. And that change is contrasted with how God does not change. Is that saying the heavens and earth will not be annihilated and replaced in contrast to God not being annihilated and replaced? No. So, you are completely missing the context of Hebrews...

It's not talking about changing old clothes for new ones, it's talking about cleaning the current clothes and making them like new. Notice how it contrasts the heavens and earth being changed with how God does not change. Is that saying the heavens and earth will be annihilated and replaced but...

A born again Christian is described as "a new creation" (2 Corinthians 5:17). Of course, that's spiritually speaking. But, does that involve our spirit being annihilated and replaced with an entirely new spirit, or does it involve our spirit being changed?

Lame answer! It does not say they will inherit the new earth, it says they will inherit the earth. This earth. Stop changing scripture! They will inherit this earth made new (the new earth).

You are cherry picking scripture while ignoring the rest. Why are you not addressing the scriptures I showed? Hebrews 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: 11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they...

Not bodily, though. The change that will occur at the last trumpet is of our bodies. Do you not differentiate between the body, soul and spirit? Paul indicated in 2 Corinthians 5:6-8 and Philippians 1:21-24 that being in the body means you are separate from the Lord and that it's far better to...

I'm not adding to scripture. You are ignoring scripture. Why did you not address the scriptures I referenced? Hebrews 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: 11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they...

What would be the point of Jesus mentioning all of those things happening in other parts of the world and then pointing out that those things don't mean the end of Jerusalem will have come yet? Those things have nothing to do with Jerusalem.

Dispensationalism causes all kinds of confusion by trying to divide God's people when scripture clearly says that the blood of Christ brings all of God's people together as one. Ephesians 2:11 Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called “uncircumcised” by those...

I'm done with your foolishness. I have much better things to do than deal with a whiny little child who has no idea how to debate and doesn't understand that spiritual discernment has nothing to do with spiritualizing scripture, but rather being able to discern what is literal and what is not.

I don't say that. You are a liar.

@Zao is life He may not be able to see what I said, but he could see what you said. Notice how he said nothing in response to what you said. That is because he knows deep down that Revelation 3:10 has nothing to do with a pre-trib rapture since that would mean Jesus contradicted what He said in...

No, sunteleia is not the moment in time that brings about the end of the age. That word does not refer to a moment in time but instead a period of time that leads up to "the end" (telos). The end of the age is a short time, but still not only one moment in time. It includes Jesus descending from...

Why can't it refer to the specific moment in time when the end of the age, which is not just a moment in time, comes to an end? So, would you consider the book of Revelation to be confusing then since it also goes back and forth in time? Does seeing the book that way suggest that I'm looking at...

His chart is still far better than yours. It's better not to show it at all than to misrepresent where it should fit on the timeline.

I already showed how to differentiate between "telos" and "suntelia" in relation to the return of Christ. I said this in post 667... While both telos and synteleia can relate to "end," they have distinct nuances. Telos generally refers to a final point or conclusion, while synteleia encompasses...

That's far better than any of Doug's charts since it actually reflects the truth. I like it. But, there is one thing missing from it. You don't have Satan's little season notated on there which comes between the end of the thousand years and the second coming/parousia of Christ.

When does the following occur which refers to a "telos" end: 1 Corinthians 15:24 Then comes the end (telos), when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. It seems clear to me that "the end" marks the actual end point of the end...

Pre-tribs always miss details like this. What Jesus said in Matthew 24:6-8 indicates that times when the world is not in a state of relative peace and safety because of things like wars, famines, pestilences and earthquakes are NOT an indication that the end is at hand yet, but pre-tribs try to...