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Agree. It should be clear that 1 Thess 5:2-3 is the same event as 2 Peter 3:10-12 and that each describe what will happen on the day Jesus comes again, not before He comes again. So, they cannot be describing the tribulation that occurs before He comes since He comes after the tribulation (Matt...

Because it has nothing to do with world peace and safety, but rather with people who are in spiritual darkness thinking that they are spiritually at peace and safe from God's wrath. When Jesus comes He will bring sudden destruction upon them which will prove that their supposed spiritual peace...

Revelation 3:10 says no such thing. Not even close. Revelation 3:10 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. For Jesus to keep someone from the hour of trial does not...

You're the first pre-trib I've seen who claims that the passages about one taken and one left are not related to the rapture. Yet, they clearly are related to it. And, you try to turn "this generation" into "that generation". This is a clear attempt to make scripture say what you want it to say.

What is the excuse you have for not reading ALL of scripture? You are blatantly contradicting what scripture teaches. You say "there is no equality with the Father"? Have you never read this... John 10:30 I and the Father are one.” Or this... Philippians 2:5 In your relationships with one...

I don't think you understand much of what you read. Not only in scripture, but of what people here say to you. You misunderstood what I was saying. I was not saying that my confidence is somehow 100% proof of what I'm saying. You were questioning me as if I might not feel confident about what I...

Your claim is 100% false. Scripture says heaven and earth will be changed and made new, not annihilated and replaced with a different heaven and earth. It is in that sense that God will "create" or recreate the heavens and the earth. Hebrews 1:10 He also says, “In the beginning, Lord, you laid...

I'm not denying that. I'm saying that the context of that is in relation to all of the known nations at that time, which I don't believe included nations like China, Japan, the Americas and some nations in Africa. And I think that is in contrast to what Jesus was saying which has to do with...

Scripture says our bodies will be changed at the last trumpet (1 Corinthians 15:51-52). It says changed, not annihilated and replaced by entirely new bodies. It also says the earth will be changed. Not replaced by a different earth, but changed. Changed dramatically, but still changed and not...

Agree. It's completely unreasonable to claim that Matthew 24:15-22 and Luke 21:20-24 are not parallel passages. As if He said those things separately in the same discourse? Imagine how confused the disciples would have been if He did that! Imagine Him saying "when ye shall see the abomination...

Look at what he does with Matthew 24:21. Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. He claims this is talking about great tribulation that would be the greatest tribulation ever. Where does it say...

Denial? What am I denying? Have you proven that the gospel was preached literally everywhere in the world before 60 AD? Do you have evidence of the gospel being preached in those places I mentioned before 60 AD? I'm denying that there is any evidence of that, not denying that possibility. All...

Are you upset that he agreed with me or something? He can't say he agrees with me without you chiming in? This comes across that you are jealous and that you wish someone here would agree with your interpretation of the Olivet Discourse. And, no, someone agreeing with your interpretation of...

Yes, I'm sure. I can't find any evidence anywhere to indicate that the gospel was preached in China, Japan, the Americas, and most nations in Africa. Those nations were not part of the known world at that time that was ruled by the Roman empire. And, it's questionable whether the gospel being...

There you go again twisting the text. Nowhere does it say "that it can't be surpassed in greatness". That is impossible. Nothing can reasonably surpass the tribulation of the flood in Noah's day in greatness. It only indicates that it would be unlike ("such as never was") any tribulation "ever...

If that's the case, then why do you act as if I can't disprove Zechariah 14 without being able to tell you exactly what it all means? That seems rather hypocritical. So, can you acknowledge that Zechariah 14 can at last potentially be proven to not have anything to do with a future millennium...

That's possible, but hard to confirm. But, was Paul really just talking about the gospel being preached only in part of all nations rather than literally throughout the world? Is there any evidence that the gospel was preached throughout India back then? I still say Paul was only talking about...

No, it does not. Stop trying to speak for me. I argue the same. That has nothing to do with why we are disagreeing about this. In the original language, the words he used that were translated as "dissolved" and "melt" can refer to the literal dissolving and literal melting of physical or...

Some people just don't want to accept that God's people are all one in Christ Jesus regardless of what tribe of Israel they descend from, whether they are Jew or Gentile, whether slave or free, male or female. And that has been the case for almost 2,000 years now. Galatians 3:26 So in Christ...

Do you have any evidence of the gospel being preached in China or India or in the southern part of Africa before 60 AD?