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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    So, when I speak generally of the children of the wicked one you think the worst of them represents all of them? Do you think all unrepentant sinners should just be killed right now rather than wait until the end of the age and leave it up to God to decide when that should happen? Is that what...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    THE CONFIRMING OF THE COVENANT OF DANIEL 9:27

    Why would I just make it up? I would have no reason to do that. For crying out loud, why does it matter if there are some exceptions to what people consider to be the tribulation period? Because that's not the only pre-trib view. I'm trying to not put all pre-tribs in one group as if they all...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    THE CONFIRMING OF THE COVENANT OF DANIEL 9:27

    Again, I am not saying that isn't the majority pre-trib view. You understand that, right? I'm simply saying there are other pre-trib views besides that. There is nothing that says you can't be pre-trib in some sense unless you agree with how the Pre-trib Research Center defines it. That's all...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Well, of course, children of the kingdom (the wheat) and children of the wicked one (the tares) live together in the world, so why is that an issue?
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    We have to determine when the sowing started in order determine what Jesus was talking about here. I believe this is in relation to the preaching of the gospel. Who first responded to the gospel message? The disciples. And they believed it. So, at first, there was only wheat. But, then after the...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Yes, I believe so. Obviously, with the wheat and sheep representing the same people and the weeds and goats representing the same people. Those whose names are not written in the book of life. These verses are all about the same thing: Matthew 25:41 “Then he will say to those on his left...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Yes, of course. That's a huge difference. We can't possibly see the parable the same because of that. At least, not in terms of what happens at the end of the age. But, you did make me realize we should look at this from God's perspective in terms of who the wheat and tares are rather than...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Edit: I read what you said again and realized I didn't fully catch what you were saying here the first time I read it. Yes, it is true that God knows ahead of time who will and won't repent, so from that perspective, the tares could represent those who God knows will not repent. That wouldn't...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    One would be the parable of the ten virgins (Matthew 25:1-13). Obviously, in reality, only one virgin marries a bridegroom, not ten or five. And, in reality, a virgin being worthy of marrying her bridegroom is not dependent on her having oil in her lamp or not. And, in reality, a bridegroom...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    THE CONFIRMING OF THE COVENANT OF DANIEL 9:27

    So, this is what I've been trying to tell you, which is what Davy described. Some people equate the "trib" part of "pre-trib" with "the great tribulation" and they do not see "the trib" as beginning when the 70th week begins, but rather some time after that, including in the middle of it. So...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    A proof that the 1000 year reign of Christ with His people is in the heavenly throne room, not the earth

    1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 2 Thessalonians 1:7 And to you who...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Not after the end of the age they don't. It will be too late to repent at that point. Of course. But, you're talking about the time before that. Jesus was not talking about that. He was talking about what will happen to anyone who is a tare when the end of the age comes.
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    All non-Christians, and not just "false Christians", fit the description that John gives of who are the children of the devil. 1 John 3:8 The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    The context of the parable is in relation to what happens to those who are wheat (children of the kingdom) and those who are tares (children of the wicked one) at the end of the age and has nothing to do with their past spiritual status. In terms of those who are wheat (children of the kingdom)...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Was my question not clear? Can you not answer it? Which prophecies exactly in Revelation in relation to the 7 churches do you believe have a dual fulfillment?
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 1 John 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    You are saying that we actually agree and don't realize it. No, we don't. How are grafted branch and I saying the same thing when I say that the tares are NOT in His kingdom while he says that they ARE in His kingdom? Also, keep in mind that what I was saying in my post was in relation to what...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Let's allow scripture to determine who are the children of the wicked one (Satan) instead of deciding that for ourselves. Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 1 John 3:10 In this the children of...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Matthew 13:38 says the tares are "the children of the wicked one". The wicked one is Satan. Aren't we all children of the wicked one in a sense before we become saved? I think so. 1 John 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Hey, not fair. We were not supposed to talk again until we get to heaven, but you ruined it. Haha. I just very much dislike seeing my view misrepresented and I think you feel the same about your views, so I needed to correct you here. I know you didn't do it on purpose, so I'm not upset about it...