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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    Sorry. Yes, I probably should have read the rest of the thread first before responding since the posts are coming fast and furious. So, please disregard my post. God bless.
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    But, not because you assume the answer was correct, right? You just determined that it was, right? But, sometimes it's not right because it pulls both true and false information that it finds. It's all opinions that it finds on the Internet. I just asked ChatGPT if the earth is billions of...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    Much of which is false, so just use it with caution. That's the only point I'm making about it.
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    Read the latest posts in the thread. The rest of us have calmed down and want to just stick to discussing scripture. Please join us instead of trying to rile things up again. Feel free. AI can be useful for some things, but he seems to think that whatever feedback he gets from ChatGPT is true...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    It should change his mind. Edit: And it did, as expected.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    Apology accepted. Thanks, David. Look, we're not enemies . We're all brothers and sisters in Christ here. We all get passionate about this topic, but we can't let it divide us and we can't let it allow to to compromise our integrity. Let's try to be respectful of each other in these...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    All current things are under His feet, but not yet the things that don't yet exist. Hebrews 2:8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him. Is...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Yes, He did. Just not in the way that people like you and the Pharisees expected the Messiah to rule. Ephesians 1:19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, 20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    You can't understand anything you read. The 100 ounces of gold in the analogy is only for those who are under the new covenant and you don't include yourself as part of the new covenant, so you will end up with only the 100 ounces of silver instead.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    This is blasphemy against the Word who came in the flesh! You clearly have no understanding of this passage: Hebrews 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    LOL at saying 70 weeks is literal time. If that was the case it would be 490 days instead of 490 years. Many Amills agree with me that the time periods in Revelation are symbolic, so it's not radical at all. Especially when considering that it's in the most highly symbolic book in the entire...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    I agree with all of this, but I think you should delete your post 185 where you said this: No Amils, including WPM, are being intellectually dishonest in this thread. The only one who was being intellectually dishonest in this thread admitted as such, to his credit.
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    That is not what I said. What I'm saying is that Jesus indicated there is some sense that all believers would survive and all unbelievers would be killed in relation to His second coming. How can that be related to what happened in 70 AD when not all unbelievers in Jerusalem were killed? Also...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    So, are you part of any denomination who believes like you or not? All of those time periods are symbolic. The judgment will occur in eternity so we will have all the time in the world to take part in the judgment. What about Satan's little season that occurs after the thousand years? How does...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    @Davidpt Did you read this post? Do you think WPM is being dishonest with this info or can you acknowledge that Irenaeus did not believe that Satan will be bound when Jesus returns and instead believed he was bound long ago?
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    Your belief about this matches theirs, so that's why I thought that was the case. And you saying "Peaceful Sabbath" made me think that as well. You are being blatantly dishonest here. He never said that He would come to meet them and then bring them back from where He came. What is the reason...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Right. That is what the following verse means as well. Hebrews 2:8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him. All things that exist today are...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    Great information. Thanks. I just wish Premills today could admit that their modern day Premill view does not match what the ECF Chiliasts taught up until Victorinus in AD 270.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    God bless you for your honesty. It's very refreshing to see this. Thanks.
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    LOL. Oh boy, here we go. Can't wait to read the rest of your arrogant nonsense. You are blatantly twisting what He said. He did not say that "He would come back and take us to be where He is". Read what he said carefully. Set your SDA bias aside and read this objectively... John 14:1 Let not...