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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    I don't say otherwise. You're not following what Jesus said about the field being His field and that the field represents the world, making it His world and therefor His kingdom in the sense that He has authority over this entire world/earth. Do you believe that Jesus has authority over the...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    LOL. You have to deny being a child of the kingdom of God and say that I'm arrogant for believing that includes me (and you and all believers) for your version of the parable to work.
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The Coming Rapture

    Nope. It doesn't contain any of the trumpets or vials. Where is that stated in the text? Nowhere. I believe what is described in relation to the seventh seal happens concurrently with what is described in the 7th trumpet and 7th vials. There is no reason to think that the 7th seal contains any...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    So pre mills actually think when they come down to this earth after a rapture, their stuff left behind will still be there?

    LOL. You are hilarious. Where did I say that I don't accept the reason given in that verse? Nowhere! Hello? I accept the reason fully which is that she couldn't cling to Him because He had not yet ascended to the Father. But, what does that mean exactly? We're not told that specifically. What...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    He's not saying they are in the kingdom of God that only born again believers are in. Jesus said that they are in His field, which represents His world and they grow together with the wheat until harvest, which is the end of the age. So, Jesus differentiated between His world that He reigns over...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    LOL. I certainly don't claim that it's all about me, but I doubt you are saying that. So, I assume you're instead saying I'm arrogant for thinking that I'm included in some way in the parable? Why is that? Jesus said "the good seed are the children of the kingdom but the tares are the children...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    So pre mills actually think when they come down to this earth after a rapture, their stuff left behind will still be there?

    LOL! I was not asking where it says that He was not yet ascended to the Father. That is extremely obvious. Why would I ask about that? Come on. No, I'm asking where we are told exactly why Jesus said what He did in that verse. Yes, He told her that she shouldn't touch Him because He hadn't yet...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    Right. For him to not recognize that the devil is still sowing seeds today and for him to not recognize that there are still wheat (children of the kingdom) and tares (children of the wicked one) in the field/world today and that they are still growing together today shows an unbelievable lack...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    I didn't say otherwise. I'm saying that the world is His world because Jesus said the field represents the world, thereby making it His world. Do you understand what I'm saying? Where did I say that? I said nothing about Revelation 12. Ugh. You are so blinded by false preterist doctrine. Jesus...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    So pre mills actually think when they come down to this earth after a rapture, their stuff left behind will still be there?

    Where are we told that? Where is the scripture which teaches that at the point He told Mary not to touch Him He could not be touched anymore at that time and couldn't be touched again until He left and came back as a spotless Lamb? You say that I'm speculating, but that is exactly what you are...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    He is deceived by his preterists beliefs, so he has trouble understanding that parables like Matthew 13:24-30 (explained in Matthew 13:36-43) teach about what will happen in the future at the end of this temporal age which then ushers in the eternal age to come. He thinks the end of the age...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    No, Jesus put forth that idea by indicating that the wicked are taken out of His kingdom at the end of the age. We know that they are not in His spiritual kingdom, so He had to be referring to "His field" that He referenced in the parable, which represented His world, which represents His...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    Not exactly. Maybe technically, I guess. I'll try to explain further. You see that Jesus said the field in the parable is His field and that the wheat and tares grow together in the field until the harvest, which represents the end of the age/world, right? And He said that the field in the...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    So pre mills actually think when they come down to this earth after a rapture, their stuff left behind will still be there?

    Are you not speculating about this as well? Of course you are. But, so what? The fact of the matter is that we are not specifically told why He told her not to cling to Him. So, we have no choice but to speculate. Do you have a better reason that she would be told not to cling to Him than what I...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    LOL! You completely missed the point. Your reading comprehension skills are...suspect at times. At the time he asked Paul and Silas the question, did they know if he was elect or not? No. That's my point. Yet, they still told him that what he needed to do (him, not God) was believe in Jesus in...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    Yes, that is possible, but I don't see that as being the context of the passage, especially when you consider other things written in the same book. I don't see any reason to think that the verse is talking about anything except for the knowledge, understanding and acceptance of the truth, which...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    So pre mills actually think when they come down to this earth after a rapture, their stuff left behind will still be there?

    You aren't even understanding what I'm saying. I'm not saying she would be devastated if she touched Jesus as if touching Jesus would immediately result in her being devastated. Are you even reading what I'm saying? I'm saying that Jesus didn't want her to cling to Him and rely too much on His...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    Look at the parable more carefully. In the parable Jesus isn't referring to the kingdom of God in the sense of the spiritual kingdom that only believers who have been born again are in. He refers to "the world" as His kingdom in the parable because He reigns over the entire world/earth (Matthew...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    Agree. Passages like that show that the saved and the lost will all be gathered at the same time at the end of the age/world (Greek: aion) which is when Jesus returns (Matt 24:3) with the saved inheriting "the kingdom of their Father" since Jesus will be delivering the kingdom to the Father at...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    So pre mills actually think when they come down to this earth after a rapture, their stuff left behind will still be there?

    Do you ever consider context? Luke 24:29 has a completely different context from John 20:17. What I was saying about Mary clinging to Jesus was in relation to Jesus not wanting her to depend on His presence too much because He was going to be leaving the earth soon. That's why He said not to...