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To you, thinking with an open mind apparently equates to changing scripture to make it say what you want it to say. It clearly indicates that the Jesus coming as a thief, and the rapture, do not occur yet as of the timing of the sixth vial. You are trying to change that because you are too...

He already kept that promise. Joshua 21:43 And the Lord gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein. 44 And the Lord gave them rest round about, according to all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of...

Yes, that is how I understand it as well. Amazing to me how anyone can think Paul is intending to keep Jews and Gentiles separate in Romans 11 when he clearly talked about them being grafted in together. I'm not sure exactly what you're saying here. All I can say is that, yes, it does talk...

That's because the Gentiles being included in God's promises was intended to be a mystery in Old Testament times. But, it's not supposed to be a mystery anymore. The mystery has been revealed. Ephesians 3:1 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, 2 If ye have heard...

Yes, but he also talks about them being joined together as one, which is a concept taught elsewhere in scripture as well (Jew and Gentile believers being joined together as one body of Christ with no difference between the Jew and the Gentile). Why do you not say anything about that? Yes, He...

Yes, really. Do you think I just say things like that and don't actually believe it? What you are really saying is that you think others don't believe that God keeps His promises as YOU see them. So what? Who cares? That doesn't mean that I and others don't believe that God will keep His...

Do you have a problem with Gentile believers being fellow heirs of God's promises with those "certain people" that you're talking about? Ephesians 3:4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) 5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men...

You keep making baseless, false accusations towards others. You should be better than that. No one here believes that anything negates God's promises. Some of us just have a different understanding of some of God's promises than you do. What you think is promised only to those who descend from...

That isn't what I was asking him. I'm asking him where he gets the idea from that the rapture is not referenced in the gospels. The text of 1 Thess 4:14-17 does not indicate any such thing, so that's why I'm wondering where he is getting that idea from. I think he may be getting that idea from...

Everyone here believes that. But, we don't all have the same understanding of all of His promises. I would never tell another believer that he or she doesn't believe that God will keep His promises. That's a serious accusation to make towards someone and is uncalled for. Just because someone may...

You said "You obey the papal dogma, you are surrendering to papal authority.". You are saying that directly to me, so I thought you were talking about me. But, you were apparently speaking generally about anyone who obeys the papal dogma and not about me in particular? You should have made that...

Are you unable to respond to my question? Does Him being described as breaking (destroying) them with a rod of iron seem like a description of Him ruling over them the way you think He will? Are you afraid to address what the original prophecy actually says? Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree...

No, it isn't. You are missing the symbolism of Armageddon and you are just ignoring that John expanded the ones who will be killed beyond just the armies to include "all people, free and slave, great and small." (Rev 19:18). Can you explain why you are ignoring that? No, you are failing to...

Which you don't even bother to show. Why should I believe you? Show me where scripture teaches that the soul and spirit die and are later resurrected.

What is your understanding of what that entails? Scripture associates that with Jesus breaking/destroying them, not ruling over them the way you think He will. Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. 8 Ask of me, and I...

Why do you say that no rapture verse fits it? All rapture verses fit it because the rapture occurs at the second coming of Christ and Revelation 19:11-21 is obviously about the second coming of Christ. 1 Thessalonians 4:14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that...

This is totally incoherent gibberish. You make all these claims without any explanation for them. What is your basis for all these claims? What do you mean "We can't have acts 1 say what it says"? What do you mean "We can't have Matthew 24:30 say what it says"? How can we have any idea of what...

You should read Revelation 19 again more carefully. Revelation 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of...

Where are you getting that idea from?

It doesn't matter what the Jews thought. They were wrong about a lot of things. Jesus knew that the Gentiles were included among the elect which is why He said this: John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there...