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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    No, I think it's talking about the future inheritance of the kingdom of God in its fullness. But, are you trying to distract from the fact that we are already rescued from spiritual darkness and have already been brought into the kingdom of Christ, as it says? Why is it that you won't even...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    There is no "coming kingdom of Christ". Scripture says He will deliver His kingdom to the Father when He comes again. 1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    That is not the only thing being discussed. Christ's resurrection, which scripture says was the first resurrection in order (Acts 26:23, 1 Cor 15:20) is also being discussed. No one is saying that the resurrection of the dead in Christ has already occurred, so don't slander others by falsely...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    He says I'm ignoring the passages he brought up after he ignored the passage I brought up. Seems rather hypocritical. Why should I have to address his passages before he addresses mine when I brought up mine first? So many people here expect their arguments to be addressed while they don't...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Of course not. Where are you getting that nonsense from? I certainly did not say that at all. Right. His kingdom is not worldly or earthly in nature, it's spiritual and heavenly in nature. It does not come with observation because it's a spiritual, heavenly kingdom. Do you deny that we are in...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    How many hours did Jesus say are coming when all of the dead will be resurrected?
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    So, you have decided to rip Colossians 1:12-13 out of your Bible? Or you just refuse to acknowledge its existence? You don't think we've been rescued from the power of darkness and been brought into the kingdom of Christ even though Paul says we have? Why do you not care what Paul taught?
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    You seem to be contradicting yourself here. First, you rightly say that He reigns now, but then you say His kingdom is not of this present age. If He reigns now then He is reigning during this present age regardless of where He is reigning from. Of course, He is bodily in heaven, but spiritually...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    None of this addresses the passage I used to back up my claim. Why is that? Would you rather just ignore it? Colossians 1:12 and giving joyful thanks to the Father, who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of his holy people in the kingdom of light. 13 For he has rescued us from the...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Which verses exactly in Luke 21 do you think describe "all these things which come to pass during the tribulation"? Luke 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    No unbelievers survived the flood or in Sodom. Jesus said it will be like that when He comes (Luke 17:26-30). But, you have some unbelievers surviving His wrath, which contradicts what Jesus indicated by comparing the wrath at His coming to the wrath in Noah's day by way of the flood and the...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    It doesn't say they have new bodies. As for saying you think I have the 6th seal happening after the 7th seal...total nonsense. How can I have a reasonable discussion with someone who thinks I would believe that nonsense? You're not talking to someone like Douggg here who has the 7th trumpet...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    How many hours did Jesus say are coming when "all that are in the graves" will be resurrected? And how do you interpret this passage: 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Are you pre-trib? It appears that you believe the first resurrection is the bodily resurrection only of those who are beheaded? So, in your view, when are the dead in Christ resurrected that Paul wrote about in 1 Corinthians 15:22-23 and 1 Thess 4:14-17? Do you have that occurring before the...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    I sure don't. You can't possibly understand the truth of this matter while being as arrogant as he is. He's too prideful to see that, though.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Good for you. But, you should stop comparing amils to pretribs. You know pretribs don't even attempt to exegete scripture and make coherent arguments using scirpture like amils do. If you want us to remain friendly, then you will stop comparing amils to pretribs. And how are we doing that...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    LOL. I'm using scripture to interpret scripture. You say one verse about the first resurrection is not related to another? That's not a good way to interpret scripture, buddy. There isn't more than one first resurrection in scripture. You foolishly deny that the following verse refers to the...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    You said "some" are doing that. Is that really true or not? Looks like maybe it's one person and not "some" who are doing that?
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    That passage is talking about the resurrection of the dead in Christ. No one here is saying that has already happened. Stop wasting time with your straw man arguments. You have to wonder how you can possibly discern scripture when you can't even discern what others believe.