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Who overcomes and at what point can it be said that they "shall not be hurt by the second death"? Look at verse 6 carefully. It says the second death has no power over those who have part in the first resurrection. Does someone need to be bodily resurrected from the dead in order to not be hurt...

It does not say they are bodily resurrected from the dead, it says they lived and reigned with Christ. The Greek word for "lived" there is "zao" which does not mean to be resurrected, but means to be alive and to live. The souls of the dead in Christ live and reign with Christ in heaven because...

We are interpreting the words differently than you and not purposely adding to or taking away from the words of the book. That passage is talking about people purposely doing that which we are not. Applying that passage to us shows how evil and judgmental you really are. You are serving Satan...

You ignore how it is defined in Acts 26:23 and 1 Corinthians 15:20 which shows that you just make scripture say what you want it to say. And we do NOT say that the resurrection of the dead in Christ, which is what 2 Timothy 2:18 is alluding to, is past already. Your lies reveal you to be a liar...

That event is past and people having part in His resurrection, the first resurrection, is not past, but has been ongoing since then and will continue until His future second coming. Does Acts 26:23 say that He was the first to be raised from the dead? Yes or no? Hello, Straw Man King Supreme...

The new man we have become, Atarah, is the one body of Jew and Gentile believers united by the blood of Jesus Christ. Otherwise known as the temple of God or the church. Do you not agree with what it says in Ephesians 2:11-22? Or is Judaism a more appealing religion to you than Christianity?

The better new covenant replaced the faulty old covenant, as scripture says. Hebrews 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. 7 For if that first covenant had been faultless...

So, you think I'm not saved and will have God's wrath come down on me. How nice. May God have mercy on your soul for condemning me like this.

It doesn't matter if Jesus didn't specifically say that He is the first resurrection. He didn't say He isn't, either. Are you aware that there is other scripture besides the words of Jesus? Paul said that Jesus's resurrection was the first resurrection. Do you care about what Paul taught? The...

Acts 26:23 That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles. Is this verse in your Bible or not? Paul said the same thing in 1 Corinthians 15:20 by saying that Christ is the firstfruits of them...

You are making 1 Corinthians 15:20-23 say what you want it to say. You're ignoring that Paul said that there is an order to the resurrections and Christ's resurrection was first in order. In your view there is no order to them at all. You only have a first resurrection and no second...

You continue to make the same weak, lame arguments over and over again. Do you never tire of doing that? And they are almost always straw man arguments which are a complete waste of time. We don't say that the judgment occurs during the last day as if the judgment goes on throughout the last day...

Woud you like to see some of the things pre-tribs have said? You're a bit biased here, it seems. Those are criticisms of the doctrine. We have been called "Satan" and accused of being possessed by evil spirits and all kinds of nasty nonsense like that. But, you don't care about that, of course...

Try reading the New Testament for once. It says that Gentile believers are fellow heirs with saved Jews of God's promises (Ephesians 3:1-16). And Peter said we are looking for the new heavens and new earth in accordance with Christ's second coming (2 Peter 3:13) and that includes saved Jews...

We're not conflating anything, Straw Man King. The Greek words "protos" (first) and "anastasis" (resurrection) are used together in only one other verse in scripture besides in Revelation 20. Acts 26:23 That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first (protos) that should rise...

@GRACE ambassador knows this is true.

Nothing, of course. But, we get these false accusations frequently as if we say the church replaces national Israel and nonsense like that. No, we do not claim that. We, like Paul in Romans 9:6-8, make a distinction between spiritual Israel (the church) and national Israel and do not have anyone...

No one here claims that the church becomes Israel. This is yet another straw man argument that you waste your time making because of your lack of understanding. We don't say that the church replaces the nation of Israel. We believe the church is the spiritual Israel of God and is a separate...

Amen. This is taught throughout the New Testament. Pre-trib dispensationalists have no understanding of the New Testament whatsoever.

That's right. I'm not. And I never claimed to be. Any other straw man arguments you want to make?