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  1. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Just reference the verse that reads something like The nature of God is a trinity - consisting of the Father, Son & Holy Spirit who are co-equal, co-substantial and co-eternal - and if you do not believe this, you cannot be saved but are damned to hell forever. And stop your belly aching. If...
  2. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    I’m a Biblical unitarian. Once you accept Scripture is the inspired word of God and read it for yourself, you realize you do not have to abdicate your reasoning mind and embrace mystical dualism. To quote Galileo, I don’t believe God would bless us with a reasoning mind to forgo its use...
  3. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Poisoning The Well. You just lost the argument. And for the record, neither @Michiah-Imla nor I are JW.
  4. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    As he said, this was already thoroughly addressed. How many laps do you need to get it? To summarize, there are 2 basic problems with relying on Thomas statement. It is not a declarative statement but an exclamation. When I drop my toast, butter side down, I am not actually claiming the toast...
  5. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Not close? Not sure why you are drawing the line along living flesh as the point pivots on the language usage of manifest. You want ‘manifest’ in this context to mean is but that is not how manifest is used in language as I demonstrated. How about this? The spirit of the Japanese people being...
  6. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    LOL Scripture speaks for itself. Deut 6:4 directly says God is 1, not 3-in-1. John 20:17 directly records Jesus saying he has a God. There is no need for me to prove anything to you. Scripture cannot be more directly communicating Jesus’ God is the only God.
  7. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    EXACTLY! Likeness is a synonym with showed or manifested. Language usage. It does not say Jesus is God. It does not say God is Jesus. And the reason is because Jesus is not God. The discipline the coach instilled in the team was manifested in the last 3 plays of the game. The manifestation is...
  8. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    LANGUAGE USAGE. Do you realize how this parallels saying Lizbeth’s likeness is manifested in a drivers license? The ID is not lizbeth, just a manifestation.
  9. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    No fallacy charge can be made when you don’t make an argument or continue to make groundless assertions, I.e., not grounded in Scripture. I asked for a Scripture verse that says what you claim. That you provide none tells the story.
  10. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    You do realize the trinity is not in the Bible, right? It's such an important doctrine, neither the word, nor the concept is mentioned once in 66 books! Profound.
  11. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Born a Jew, under the law, compelled to believe God, who we relate to as Father, is one and not 3-is-1. There is no evidence Jesus ever stopped being Jewish. This is the Messiah's philosophy.
  12. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Oh, what verse says that God made Jesus God? The problem with trinitarian claims is that there is not one shred of a Scriptural sentence that say anything like what your dogma is. This is God's word, 'For us, there is one God, the Father.' Simple. Direct. Irrefutable. Even a trinitarian can...
  13. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Agency. You are deliberately confounding Gods words. He is the savior and has chosen Jesus as the agent of our salvation. That doesn’t make Jesus God.
  14. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Except for what the Gospel actually says,not a twisted, illogical interpretation of it you demand. Remember, you got nothing like. ;
  15. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    It is hardly a slur to Jesus to say his name is above all names - except God’s name YHWH. This is consistent with Christianity’s end game at 1 Cor 15:23-28. By contrast, your dogma contradicts so much of Scripture, the Sh’ma, 1C, 1 COR 8:6, John 17:3, etc. ‘For us, there is one God, the...
  16. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Pure invention, independent of the actual word of God. Jesus is the Son of God. Sons are, by definition, created Beings. Trinitarians insist a word meaning ‘created Being’ is really an uncreated Being.
  17. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Well, I think you do. Tit for tat. You copy and paste a link. So do I. Figured you’d like that.
  18. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Which is what it always means. However, this is not what God said to Moses as something is lost in the Hebrew to English translation. God basically said to Moses that he is eternal, which is why the VOICE translation uses ‘eternal’ as the word for God.
  19. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    You do. See how satisfying it is? LOL.
  20. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    The Many Fallacies of Dualism