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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Christian Liberty Forced me to Leave Dispensationalism

    Whatever. When someone is dishonest like you are, I will call it out every time. I'm pretty sure lying is against forum rules, too. You lie about what the word generation means in Matthew 24:34 by making up your own definition of the word that you can't find in any Bible dictionary or regular...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Are the trumpets and vials running in parallel like some insist?

    I don't know what you're saying. I asked straightforward questions, but you don't give straightforward answers for some reason. I'll try again. Do you believe that the seventh trumpet and the last trumpet (1 Cor 15:50-54) are the same? Yes or no? If so, that would mean Christ returns at the...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The only way Amil can remotely be Biblical is if NOSAS isn't Biblical.

    That is not true, as I have shown. But, you won't address my arguments about this. You just repeat the same things you always say without addressing anything I say. How can I take you seriously when that's the case? I am not saying that at all. You are not even trying to understand what I'm...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The only way Amil can remotely be Biblical is if NOSAS isn't Biblical.

    The context of verse 23 is obviously related to verse 22. Paul said that ALL who are in Christ will be made alive and the order to bodily resurrections unto immortality is Christ's first and next in order are those at His coming. He makes no mention of anyone else being resurrected at any other...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    There is no indication of any of that in Matthew 24:29-31 at all. You are making things up. You are trying to relate unrelated scripture. Every verse is a separate event to you. You can't be taken seriously. I'm not wasting any more time on your nonsense.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Turning all of that into completely separate events is just utter nonsense that can't be taken seriously. Your approach that says two passages can't be related together unless they contain all the same details is utterly ridiculous. Why don't you make every verse within Revelation 19:11-21 into...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Your view makes complete nonsense of the following verse that is parallel to Matthew 24:31. Mark 13:27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. You are claiming that "the...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Your timing is all messed up. You're always relating unrelated scriptures over and over again. Jesus gave no indication whatsoever of a time period of any significance, such as 45 days between the end of the tribulation and His coming. Not at all. No wonder your charts are such a mess. Let's...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    I don't know what you're saying here. Can you try to be more clear? Please tell me exactly how you interpret Zechariah 14:16-19. But, before you even do that, can you please address what I said in the original post? The fact that you're not doing that is quite telling. If you're as confident...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    I didn't. You have no reading comprehension skills whatsoever. I didn't ask you to question God, I asked you to ask Him for wisdom. What's wrong with that? It's a good thing to do (James 1:5-7).
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Good grief, Douggg. Who is saying that? No one. They obviously would gather us after our bodies are changed first. The word rapture itself does not refer to us being changed, but rather to us being caught up to meet Christ in the air. We are not caught up until after our bodies are changed...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    In case you forgot after the several times we've talked about this before, I agree with this. Whoa. Now you're off base. There is no indication whatsoever in Matthew 24:29-31 that there is any delay between the tribulation being over and Jesus's second coming. What you don't understand is that...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    I'm done with your childishness and your lies. I never question God. May He have mercy on your soul for falsely accusing me the way you are.
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    LOL. We're not talking about going out and spreading the gospel here. That's total false equivalence.
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    This is such a childish response. Do you not ever want to grow up? You just want to talk like a child your whole life? Everyone here believes God and you know it. You know I'm disagreeing with you and would never purposely disagree with God, so why do you say childish things like this? I don't...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    If you ever get on the same page with him then you can be sure that you are entirely on the wrong page. Trust me. He is a guy who completely undermines the teachings of Paul as it relates to Bible prophecy. In another thread I used 1 Cor 15:22-23 to show him that all of the dead in Christ will...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    We're talking about God here. He could just have us all brought together instantly without any need for travel. Here's a novel idea. He can use His angels to gather the elect and bring them to where He wants them to to be, such as in the air with Jesus and on the new earth for eternity. Why...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    You're just making things up to justify your interpretation of Zechariah 14:16-19. Nowhere does the text indicate what you're saying. Not even close. So, make up your mind. Do take it literallly or not? Jesus said we don't need to go to Jerusalem to worship God and we must worship God in spirit...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    LOL! What a joke. Yes, God is going to make people have to figure out how to travel long distances to eter the kingdom of heaven. That's your understanding of how someone enters the kingdom of heaven instead of repenting and putting one's faith in Christ. Ridiculous. LOL. I hope you can afford...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    So, just to be clear, you believe that God, for whatever reason, decided to change things so that people would no longer need to come to Jerusalem to worship Him and required them to worship Him in spirit and in truth instead only to one day make people go to Jerusalem again to worship Him. And...